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| , I'm sure they did carbon date something they knew how old it was to see how well the method works and didn't just pull the idea out of thin air to test it (I'd have to try and fine an article that I don't need to pay money to view, and older articles tend to be free to review and include ways to contact the authors for further information), but if you think they did, fine; I know I won't be able to change your thoughts. |
Oh, my thoughts can easily be changed. A man had me thinking that President Obama was the way to go for a few months, even though me and you know that I'm Republican. He provided me with enough examples and evidence that I was thinking very differently than how I had been at the beginning of the election. Heck, on inauguration day I joined the fans and enjoyed his speech, and thought "Wow, this guy could do something." I won't get into where I stand now, but the point is, if you can give me clear enough facts to show me I'm wrong, than I'll willingly change my views. The man did that for me with Obama(though I will admit, he was a good enough speaker that he made me forget about the points against the president) However, we're on a topic where your own personal ideas are needed to decide what you believe, as there are no facts for a young or old earth, that prove the other is not possible. So, yes, it will always be hard to sway anyone's thoughts without having solid facts to back it up. I couldn't change anyone into thinking that there was a God very easily, if they a) had already decided they wouldn't believe in one and b) I had no real facts to give them. So goes the problem with trying to sell something like a God, and so is the problem of trying to sell evolution, the big bang, or whatever other side of the argument there is (the reason I think that these are so easily accepted is because it's coming from professionals. After all, who are we mere mortals to question the leaders in their field? May we never again question our president, our congressmen, or the CEO's of the biggest businesses again. After all, they are the best in their area.)
One thing I notice is that you seem stuck on the fact that you can't change people's thoughts. Trust me Aush, you could change my mind on many things. For one, if I were to think that a meteorologist simply does guess work, I'm sure you would have no problem changing my mind. I'm sure you have plenty of facts of what your job entails. It's an argument I would easily loose, because, though I did have an opinion beforehand, I would have no option but to accept that I was wrong when I'm proven so. So far, nobody can prove that the earth is old or young. I'm sorry, they can't. If they had, we wouldn't have an argument. I don't see anyone in here arguing that we live on a planet, or that the laws of gravity exist. Those are proven things. You really only have one side you can take, unless you're just playing devil's advocate for no reason. In this argument, it's hard to change someone's mind when you can't prove them wrong. The same goes for me; I've given real examples that show some of the flaws, but I'll admit, the dating method used for the volcanoes is just one way of dating. Others may have shown more accurate results. However, as it's not something like gravity, where this is a definite wrong and right; it will always be hard to sway an opinion like this. I thought my examples were good enough to show that the dating is not a pure way to go, and yet people still dispute it, because there's always a counter-argument. But, don't think you can't change my mind. You give me the 100% undeniable, universally accepted, proven facts that the earth is millions of years old, and I'll agree. Until you can, I've decided to take the opposite stance, and I'll stay there .
As for looking at Wikipedia, I've tried, and everything written on any scientific page comes from the view of evolution, with no mention of opposite theories. Not sure I can trust what they give me, when they fail to acknowledge that evolution may be wrong. They treat it like every text book in a public school: evolution is right, because the scientists say so. And then they give the good examples of why, and leave out the bad ones. Now, I don't know where you stand on evolution, so that's just an example. However, it's the same with things like millions of years. Every text book and science website will say millions of years without ever examining the counter-arguments. I don't know how we define narrow-minded here, but that's a good case of it.
And, to end this post, I hope we've all caught on to my short sentence about how mature we are here. This argument isn't something that needs to carry on in our relationships outside of this specific thread. I'm sure all of the Christians here get in arguments with their non-Christian friends, but that doesn't end the friendship. Usually... 
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