Log in to check your private messages
Coolest star wars character
Goto page Previous  1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6  Next
 
Post new topic   This topic is locked: you cannot edit posts or make replies.    The EUCantina Forums Forum Index » Aush's EU Cantina View previous topic :: View next topic  
 PostPosted: Thu Aug 27, 2009 2:07 am Reply with quote  
Message
  Aush
Administrator
Administrator

Joined: 12 Nov 2007
Posts: 980
Location: Midwest, USA

Hmm, not like Yoda. Yeah, his abilities with the Force and a lightsaber are impressive but what about his character? First off, I must recommend two pieces of media you should check out: the novel Yoda: Dark Rendezous and an issue of the Republic comics series during the Clone Wars. (I'll have to look up the name and issue number)

For my quick thoughts, Yoda is one that takes even more time to act than Luke. And the biggest weakness Yoda had was in Episode III when he fought the Emperor. Why? Because Palpatine saw it and used it to his advantage: "Your arrogance blinds you, Master Yoda." If there's one thing Luke has not had or had little influence from its his arrogance knowing that he's all powerful; that's one thing that places Luke above Yoda even in my eyes, but Yoda is a character that can teach anyone several good lessons or things to ponder. (Did I say quick? Laughing)
_________________
"Changes are nice--but so is continuity!"

"Then you saved my life. How disgusting. How unfortunate."
"No, don't gush on so. It was nothing, really."


View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail Visit poster's website AIM Address

 PostPosted: Thu Aug 27, 2009 11:55 am Reply with quote  
Message
  SwordoftheJedi
Master
Master

Joined: 26 Apr 2009
Posts: 813
Location: Trying to dodge Javis Tyrr's holocams...

Why I don't like Yoda:

1.I don't understand why he can't sense that Palpatine is dark. If Yoda is supposed to be so all-knowing and powerful, he should've been able to match the Sith's powers.

2. How come he couldn't kill Palpatine with his legendary "Swordmaster" skills? With all those great titles he has, he should've at least been able to injure him!

3. Even though I knnow he didn't want Anakin to be a Jedi anyway, He failed to sense that Anakin Skywalker was troubled and in danger of turning dark. If Anakin was a special student in the first place, he should have at least let Anakin read the notes from his Mom (Tatooine Ghost, I think, touches on this). What harm would that have done? It's becasue he couldn't keep up with her that he eventually had to go find her on Tatooine and find her near dead, the event, which I think, officialy started his path towards darkness.

Basically, he was a wise instructor and all that, but when it came time for action, he couldn't do crap. He's okay. I just don't find him as cool as most people think. He did nothing, in my eyes, that makes him stand out from any other Jedi Master. Besides, of course, messing up when it counted the most.


Chewie: While I don't really hate him, I don't like him either. Don't really have reasons for this one. Maybe I just think he's overrated. Yeah, he's Han's best friend. Yeah, everyone likes the Wookie sounds he makes. I just don't find him that cool, really. He doesn't do anything. Maybe this is because I've never read the Han Solo trilogy or anything like that. Maybe he's pretty kick butt in those. The only thing I really like about Chewie is how he sacrificed himself for Anakin and everyone else on that ship. But yeah, he's not that great...
_________________
"How's that for a system malfunction?" -Jaina Solo
"Embrace the pain, Scarhead."-Jaina Solo



View user's profile Send private message

 PostPosted: Thu Aug 27, 2009 1:07 pm Reply with quote  
Message
  FatalFist
Knight
Knight

Joined: 06 Sep 2008
Posts: 431
Location: Paksitan-LAhore

Shocked U think Yoda is crap when it comes to the real deal!!
Blasphemy>>>ppl their shud be a law that states u cant go arnd dissing Master Yoda!!! Very Happy

Yoda gives us the coolest lines EVER!!!
Yoda didnt kill Palpatine on purpose>>>Yoda KNEW it wasnt his destiny=)>>It was Vaders Wink
_________________


View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail Visit poster's website MSN Messenger

 PostPosted: Thu Aug 27, 2009 1:38 pm Reply with quote  
Message
  SwordoftheJedi
Master
Master

Joined: 26 Apr 2009
Posts: 813
Location: Trying to dodge Javis Tyrr's holocams...

But if Yoda would've killed Palpatine and Obi-Wan killed Anakin, the Sith would've been gone.
_________________
"How's that for a system malfunction?" -Jaina Solo
"Embrace the pain, Scarhead."-Jaina Solo



View user's profile Send private message

 PostPosted: Thu Aug 27, 2009 1:44 pm Reply with quote  
Message
  Queen Padmè Skywalker
Master
Master

Joined: 17 Jul 2009
Posts: 5158
Location: Sitting in front of a fireplace on Naboo exchanging pathetic dialogue with Anakin

SwordoftheJedi wrote:
But if Yoda would've killed Palpatine and Obi-Wan killed Anakin, the Sith would've been gone.


Good point. Then again, if Yoda, Mace, and the rest of the Council had taken more responsibility for Anakin, he might never have gone dark to begin with. Just a thought. Smile
_________________
All things die, Anakin Skywalker, even stars burn out.

So this is how liberty dies....with thunderous applause.



Those without swords can still die upon them

The world is a mess and I just need to rule it.


View user's profile Send private message

 PostPosted: Thu Aug 27, 2009 1:44 pm Reply with quote  
Message
  Caedus_16
Master
Master

Joined: 15 Apr 2008
Posts: 4770
Location: Korriban

SwordoftheJedi wrote:
But if Yoda would've killed Palpatine and Obi-Wan killed Anakin, the Sith would've been gone.


Haha but then that whole pointless 'Chosen One' thing that supposedly underlined the entire film series wouldn't have worked. Btw, that was poorly thought-out and never explained. Bad move with that, throwing it in almost as an unexplained afterthought.
_________________
Perfection is a lifelong pursuit requiring sacrifice. The only way to get it quicker is to sacrifice the most.


View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail MSN Messenger

 PostPosted: Thu Aug 27, 2009 1:49 pm Reply with quote  
Message
  Queen Padmè Skywalker
Master
Master

Joined: 17 Jul 2009
Posts: 5158
Location: Sitting in front of a fireplace on Naboo exchanging pathetic dialogue with Anakin

Caedus_16 wrote:

Haha but then that whole pointless 'Chosen One' thing that supposedly underlined the entire film series wouldn't have worked. Btw, that was poorly thought-out and never explained. Bad move with that, throwing it in almost as an unexplained afterthought.


I don't mind the whole "Chosen One" plot. I think it's rather cool. But it has led to endless debate among fans over if Anakin actually was the Chosen One.
_________________
All things die, Anakin Skywalker, even stars burn out.

So this is how liberty dies....with thunderous applause.



Those without swords can still die upon them

The world is a mess and I just need to rule it.


View user's profile Send private message

 PostPosted: Thu Aug 27, 2009 2:09 pm Reply with quote  
Message
  Caedus_16
Master
Master

Joined: 15 Apr 2008
Posts: 4770
Location: Korriban

Well there's no 'where the prophecy came from' and 'who it came from' or 'what it really means' or anything like that. It coulda been Anakin, Luke, Caedus, any number of people. It also could be a recurring part of the universe. Like when the galaxy needs one it creates one type thing. It was poorly thought out I thought, and the whole Sith'ari thing makes it even more complicated because the Sith can have a chosen one too. It was a cool idea, but its something that they should've thought out more and built on more cause it wound up being nothing.
_________________
Perfection is a lifelong pursuit requiring sacrifice. The only way to get it quicker is to sacrifice the most.


View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail MSN Messenger

 PostPosted: Thu Aug 27, 2009 5:22 pm Reply with quote  
Message
  Old Master Ben
Administrator
Administrator

Joined: 10 Nov 2007
Posts: 2259
Location: Georgia

What you're saying sounds a lot like the Matrix. Basically, there isn't just one chosen one, but many, who restore balance to the Force: but only for a short time. Then it gets out of wack again and the next "Chosen One" comes along.


View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail Visit poster's website AIM Address

 PostPosted: Thu Aug 27, 2009 7:48 pm Reply with quote  
Message
  FatalFist
Knight
Knight

Joined: 06 Sep 2008
Posts: 431
Location: Paksitan-LAhore

Well...Perhaps Widout Anakin in the picture...The Seperatists might hav won?
And had that happned Palpatine still wouldve been in power.

Perhaps Palpatine truly was THE most powerful Force-user at that time...He let MAce get the upper hand to lure Anakin into the darkside?...And Palpatine managed to save his hide from Yoda.....

Anakin/Vader in the end is the one who =actually= kills the emperor....So yea...in my books >>>Anakin=The Chosen One=........Widout him according to me...Palpatine wouldve taken over regardless.
_________________


View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail Visit poster's website MSN Messenger

 PostPosted: Thu Aug 27, 2009 9:32 pm Reply with quote  
Message
  Mara Jade Skywalker
Administrator
Administrator

Joined: 15 Feb 2008
Posts: 5586
Location: Beyond Shadows

In my view, the Chosen One worked out perfectly. Having Anakin have already fulfilled his destiny was a brilliant move, in my opinion. Through the entire PT we're treated with, "He is the Chosen One." But then we have RotS end with Anakin turning into Darth Vader, apparently missing his mark as said Chosen One. Except when we stop to think about, we have to remember there's more to the story. Darth Vader once again becomes Anakin Skywalker just before he dies and restores balance to the Force. The story had concluded before it even started.

That took me awhile to figure out, but once I did, it was a beautiful plot point. The fact that the Sith continue to return in the EU is a little annoying, but I suppose necessary. Anakin Skywalker did bring balance to the Force, but not forever. He simply saved it after it had gone oh, so wrong. And without him, who knows...the Jedi may have died out altogether. Even if more had come along, they would have had to start from scratch. It would have been a very, very long road back to what they once had known.

So...what a long point, but yes, I do believe Anakin Skywalker was the Chosen One. Smile
_________________

"It's not about the legacy you leave, it's about the life you live." ~Mara Jade Skywalker



View user's profile Send private message Visit poster's website

 PostPosted: Fri Aug 28, 2009 10:49 am Reply with quote  
Message
  Darth Skuldren
Moderator
Moderator

Joined: 04 Feb 2008
Posts: 6499
Location: Missouri

SwordoftheJedi wrote:
Why I don't like Yoda:

1.I don't understand why he can't sense that Palpatine is dark. If Yoda is supposed to be so all-knowing and powerful, he should've been able to match the Sith's powers.

2. How come he couldn't kill Palpatine with his legendary "Swordmaster" skills? With all those great titles he has, he should've at least been able to injure him!

3. Even though I knnow he didn't want Anakin to be a Jedi anyway, He failed to sense that Anakin Skywalker was troubled and in danger of turning dark. If Anakin was a special student in the first place, he should have at least let Anakin read the notes from his Mom (Tatooine Ghost, I think, touches on this). What harm would that have done? It's becasue he couldn't keep up with her that he eventually had to go find her on Tatooine and find her near dead, the event, which I think, officialy started his path towards darkness.

Basically, he was a wise instructor and all that, but when it came time for action, he couldn't do crap. He's okay. I just don't find him as cool as most people think. He did nothing, in my eyes, that makes him stand out from any other Jedi Master. Besides, of course, messing up when it counted the most.


Chewie: While I don't really hate him, I don't like him either. Don't really have reasons for this one. Maybe I just think he's overrated. Yeah, he's Han's best friend. Yeah, everyone likes the Wookie sounds he makes. I just don't find him that cool, really. He doesn't do anything. Maybe this is because I've never read the Han Solo trilogy or anything like that. Maybe he's pretty kick butt in those. The only thing I really like about Chewie is how he sacrificed himself for Anakin and everyone else on that ship. But yeah, he's not that great...


Ah, yes, good points. They all perfectly illustrate precisely why Darth Sidious is so much cooler than Yoda. Very Happy
_________________

"I believe toys resonate with us as humans, we can hold them them, it's tactile, real! They are totems for our extended beliefs and imaginations. A fetish for ideas that hold as much interest and passion as old religious relics for some. We display them in our homes. They show who we are. They are signals for similar thinking people. A way we connect with each other...and I guess thats why I do toys. That connection." -Ashley Wood


View user's profile Send private message Visit poster's website

 PostPosted: Fri Aug 28, 2009 9:46 pm Reply with quote  
Message
  FatalFist
Knight
Knight

Joined: 06 Sep 2008
Posts: 431
Location: Paksitan-LAhore

ah but Vader looks more scary/
::Apologies accepted::...=chokes=
Cool Cool Cool
_________________


View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail Visit poster's website MSN Messenger

 PostPosted: Fri Aug 28, 2009 10:24 pm Reply with quote  
Message
  SwordoftheJedi
Master
Master

Joined: 26 Apr 2009
Posts: 813
Location: Trying to dodge Javis Tyrr's holocams...

Skuldren, agreed. Totally. Cool
_________________
"How's that for a system malfunction?" -Jaina Solo
"Embrace the pain, Scarhead."-Jaina Solo



View user's profile Send private message

 PostPosted: Sat Aug 29, 2009 4:27 am Reply with quote  
Message
  FatalFist
Knight
Knight

Joined: 06 Sep 2008
Posts: 431
Location: Paksitan-LAhore

This court Finds Sword Of the Jedi>>>GUILTY> Under the Blasphemy Act that was passed Yesterday. Cool ....and Skuldren too Mad
_________________


View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail Visit poster's website MSN Messenger

Post new topic   This topic is locked: you cannot edit posts or make replies.    The EUCantina Forums Forum Index » Aush's EU Cantina

Page 5 of 6
All times are GMT - 5 Hours
Goto page Previous  1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6  Next

Display posts from previous:

  

Jump to:  
You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot vote in polls in this forum


Powered by phpBB © 2001, 2002 phpBB Group
Jedi Knights 2 by Scott Stubblefield