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  Mara Jade Skywalker
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Help for who, Jacen? Sorry, Fist. I'm afraid it's just that no one here loves him. Any other characters you really like? We could probably back you there. Unless his name is Zekk. Wink
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Zekk. Or as he shall forever be known: The-Jedi-with-half-a-name. Wink
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Queen Padmè Skywalker wrote:
Zekk. Or as he shall forever be known: The-Jedi-with-half-a-name. Wink


I have a feeling it'll be either Zekk Draco
or Zekk Krieg. I have a feeling Zekk may join the IKO at some point. All theory, and none that I'm realy connected to, but it has always seemed to me that the Force is the that which makes things convenient in the SWU. Laughing

I'm rambling.....
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Mara Jade Skywalker wrote:
Help for who, Jacen? Sorry, Fist. I'm afraid it's just that no one here loves him. Any other characters you really like? We could probably back you there. Unless his name is Zekk. Wink


What Fist dig Jacen and Zekk especially? I like both! I might not have liked everything done with the characters, but I still like them!
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FatalFist and Sword had a Jacen vs Jaina debate going awhile back. Smile
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Queen Padmè Skywalker wrote:
FatalFist and Sword had a Jacen vs Jaina debate going awhile back. Smile



Ahh well I often wonder how the Vong took Jaina Killing Jacen?
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Ha, I can see it now! "What? She killed him? Why didn't they just have a fight to the death for the Twin Sacrifice like we suggested? Could have saved the galaxy a lot of time and misery,". Wink

This is part of the reason why I think that LotF took away from the NJO.
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illogicalRogue2 wrote:
Ahh well I often wonder how the Vong took Jaina Killing Jacen?


Lol they probably went "Holy Crap, Shimmra was right!!! Attack!!!"
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But seriously, LotF DID INDEED take away from all that NJO established. In fact, a lot of the second half of NJO took away from its first half by killing Anakin because many prophecies were left either half fulfilled or done half witted. Like anakin's vision of Tahiri. It was painful to speculate that the vision he had of her in dark armor turned into her being Jacen's apprentice. The sad thing is that all the growth Jacen went through was destroyed by Caedus and then as if that wasn't bad enough that whole storyline was wasted by limiting it to only a 9 book series. Sad face Sad
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Caedus_16 wrote:
illogicalRogue2 wrote:
Ahh well I often wonder how the Vong took Jaina Killing Jacen?


Lol they probably went "Holy Crap, Shimmra was right!!! Attack!!!"


LOL.
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Caedus_16 wrote:
But seriously, LotF DID INDEED take away from all that NJO established. In fact, a lot of the second half of NJO took away from its first half by killing Anakin because many prophecies were left either half fulfilled or done half witted. Like anakin's vision of Tahiri. It was painful to speculate that the vision he had of her in dark armor turned into her being Jacen's apprentice. The sad thing is that all the growth Jacen went through was destroyed by Caedus and then as if that wasn't bad enough that whole storyline was wasted by limiting it to only a 9 book series. Sad face Sad


I agree 100%, Caedus. The NJO was epic (even with Anakin's death Sad) and LotF pretty wiped out most of its meaning. What was Del Rey thinking?
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Del Rey? Thinking? They haven't done that since NJO lol. I think the place where I lost faith in them was their inability to fight Lucas for Anakin Solo's life. I also lost respect for him. That really turned things around. Dark Nest didn't help. Nothing since has.
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*shudders* Dark Nest. What a trilogy to come right on the heels of the NJO. I think those books rank as the Worst SW Books Ever. Del Rey's regained some favor with me with FotJ, but I still sigh sadly when I think of of what could have been if Anakin had lived and LotF had been done right. Sad

And the first thing I'd say to Lucas if I had the chance is, "An honor to meet you, sir. I love SW and am so grateful that you created it. One question, though. Did you even read any of the books before you ordered the death of Anakin Solo?"
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Here's the thing. DelRey has not produced one single book (post-NJO, if you want to debate Mindor) that has rocked my world since The Unifying Force. People can say what they want, but so many books in the NJO totally blew me away. And you know what it was? The use of the characters! But so many of them are gone now, or so screwed up that they're useless.

Actually, I lied. The Republic Commando books completely knocked my socks off. But Karen Traviss was the author of those books, and she will forever be placed in her own category in my opinion. Apparently she and DelRey didn't get along too well, so I'm going to attribute those bits of genius to her. Meaning the Commando books don't count.

DelRey has lost it's touch. Maybe it's the mass releases. So many books so fast, they're just not as special anymore. I don't know. But the only thing I'm looking forward to right now is Imperial Commando. And once again, that's Karen Traviss. So...sorry, DelRey. But my faith in you is wavering. Confused
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