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Posted: Fri Oct 16, 2009 11:26 am
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Rouge77 Master Joined: 22 Mar 2008 Posts: 599 Caedus_16 wrote: But seriously, LotF DID INDEED take away from all that NJO established. In fact, a lot of the second half of NJO took away from its first half by killing Anakin because many prophecies were left either half fulfilled or done half witted. Like anakin's vision of Tahiri. It was painful to speculate that the vision he had of her in dark armor turned into her being Jacen's apprentice. The sad thing is that all the growth Jacen went through was destroyed by Caedus and then as if that wasn't bad enough that whole storyline was wasted by limiting it to only a 9 book series. Sad face QFT. I'm in total agreement.

Posted: Fri Oct 16, 2009 11:28 am
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Rouge77 Master Joined: 22 Mar 2008 Posts: 599 Queen Padmè Skywalker wrote: And the first thing I'd say to Lucas if I had the chance is, "An honor to meet you, sir. I love SW and am so grateful that you created it. One question, though. Did you even read any of the books before you ordered the death of Anakin Solo?" GL didn't really order Anakin's death, he just said that DR couldn't use Anakin as a main hero, like DR wanted. The killing of major characters, including Anakin, was the idea of people working for DR.

Posted: Fri Oct 16, 2009 11:39 am
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Jedi Joe Master Joined: 11 Jun 2009 Posts: 1346 Rouge77 wrote: Queen Padmè Skywalker wrote: And the first thing I'd say to Lucas if I had the chance is, "An honor to meet you, sir. I love SW and am so grateful that you created it. One question, though. Did you even read any of the books before you ordered the death of Anakin Solo?" GL didn't really order Anakin's death, he just said that DR couldn't use Anakin as a main hero, like DR wanted. The killing of major characters, including Anakin, was the idea of people working for DR. Yea, and as far as I know, Anakin wasn't the main hero. They all played a good part in the stories. _________________

Posted: Fri Oct 16, 2009 4:52 pm
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Queen Padmè Skywalker Master Joined: 17 Jul 2009 Posts: 4930 Location: Sitting in front of a fireplace on Naboo exchanging pathetic dialogue with Anakin All right, so Lucas didn't "order" Anakin's death, but he may as well have. The original intent was for Anakin to be the hero and Jacen to be killed. When Lucas vetoed that idea, Del Rey just swapped the characters. Anakin died, Jacen was the "hero". A status made irrelevant in LotF. _________________ All things die, Anakin Skywalker, even stars burn out. So this is how liberty dies....with thunderous applause. Those without swords can still die upon them The world is a mess and I just need to rule it.

Posted: Fri Oct 16, 2009 6:47 pm
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Caedus_16 Master Joined: 15 Apr 2008 Posts: 4402 Location: Korriban Queen Padmè Skywalker wrote: All right, so Lucas didn't "order" Anakin's death, but he may as well have. The original intent was for Anakin to be the hero and Jacen to be killed. When Lucas vetoed that idea, Del Rey just swapped the characters. Anakin died, Jacen was the "hero". A status made irrelevant in LotF. The sad thing is that if Anakin hadn't died it might've been him in the Sith position. _________________ Perfection is a lifelong pursuit requiring sacrifice. The only way to get it quicker is to sacrifice the most.

Posted: Fri Oct 16, 2009 8:35 pm
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Queen Padmè Skywalker Master Joined: 17 Jul 2009 Posts: 4930 Location: Sitting in front of a fireplace on Naboo exchanging pathetic dialogue with Anakin I like to think that even Del Rey wouldn't have been that stupid. _________________ All things die, Anakin Skywalker, even stars burn out. So this is how liberty dies....with thunderous applause. Those without swords can still die upon them The world is a mess and I just need to rule it.

Posted: Sat Oct 17, 2009 12:24 am
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Caedus_16 Master Joined: 15 Apr 2008 Posts: 4402 Location: Korriban Queen Padmè Skywalker wrote: I like to think that even Del Rey wouldn't have been that stupid. Maybe not, but LotF exists. It wasn't a terrible series, just poorly planned, but it also hurt a lot of character building. _________________ Perfection is a lifelong pursuit requiring sacrifice. The only way to get it quicker is to sacrifice the most.

Posted: Sat Oct 17, 2009 12:29 am
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Queen Padmè Skywalker Master Joined: 17 Jul 2009 Posts: 4930 Location: Sitting in front of a fireplace on Naboo exchanging pathetic dialogue with Anakin That's my number one complaint about Del Rey: no long term planning. What was the point of building Jacen up as the hero of the NJO just to turn him and kill him in LotF? This confuses and angers me. _________________ All things die, Anakin Skywalker, even stars burn out. So this is how liberty dies....with thunderous applause. Those without swords can still die upon them The world is a mess and I just need to rule it.

Posted: Sat Oct 17, 2009 12:30 am
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Caedus_16 Master Joined: 15 Apr 2008 Posts: 4402 Location: Korriban Queen Padmè Skywalker wrote: That's my number one complaint about Del Rey: no long term planning. What was the point of building Jacen up as the hero of the NJO just to turn him and kill him in LotF? This confuses and angers me. Lol it's 'reality' which means that things don't stay awesome because they're built to be awesome. Ironically, we read escapist fantasy to experience a world where different rules apply. _________________ Perfection is a lifelong pursuit requiring sacrifice. The only way to get it quicker is to sacrifice the most.

Posted: Sat Oct 17, 2009 9:07 am
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Rouge77 Master Joined: 22 Mar 2008 Posts: 599 Queen Padmè Skywalker wrote: That's my number one complaint about Del Rey: no long term planning. What was the point of building Jacen up as the hero of the NJO just to turn him and kill him in LotF? This confuses and angers me. In original plans there was no intention of there being novels after NJO, so Jacen wouldn't have been a hero afterwards as there would have been nothing for him to be a hero in. When they came up with DN and LotF Jacen was just a "wrong" hero for the PT age. If he would have been Luke and Mara's son he would be still alive and a hero, as he wasn't, he was killed so that Luke's son could take his place. Ben in the novels and and Cade in the comics are both Anakin Skywalker -copies. Jacen couldn't be, having the wrong last name, so they made him just a crazy Darth Vader -wannabe. Last edited by Rouge77 on Sat Oct 17, 2009 2:57 pm; edited 1 time in total

Posted: Sat Oct 17, 2009 2:11 pm
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Queen Padmè Skywalker Master Joined: 17 Jul 2009 Posts: 4930 Location: Sitting in front of a fireplace on Naboo exchanging pathetic dialogue with Anakin All of which just proves that Del Rey needs to plan these things. _________________ All things die, Anakin Skywalker, even stars burn out. So this is how liberty dies....with thunderous applause. Those without swords can still die upon them The world is a mess and I just need to rule it.

Posted: Tue Jul 27, 2010 2:28 pm
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Caedus_16 Master Joined: 15 Apr 2008 Posts: 4402 Location: Korriban Just a sad reminder that he's dead and I stumbled across this also dead thread... _________________ Perfection is a lifelong pursuit requiring sacrifice. The only way to get it quicker is to sacrifice the most.

Posted: Tue Jul 27, 2010 2:38 pm
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Mara Jade Skywalker Master Joined: 15 Feb 2008 Posts: 5359 Location: Beyond Shadows I feel a shlump coming on... _________________ "It's not about the legacy you leave, it's about the life you live." ~Mara Jade Skywalker

Posted: Tue Jul 27, 2010 2:41 pm
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Caedus_16 Master Joined: 15 Apr 2008 Posts: 4402 Location: Korriban Caedus has had a rough couple of days and Caedus now feels like remembering hte fallen. We miss you Anakin, we really do _________________ Perfection is a lifelong pursuit requiring sacrifice. The only way to get it quicker is to sacrifice the most.

Posted: Tue Jul 27, 2010 2:47 pm
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Rouge77 Master Joined: 22 Mar 2008 Posts: 599 Don't rest in peace, Anakin, rise up in anger... Not in the Dark Side kind of, but in righteous anger.

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