The Death Penalty

Master Joined: 15 May 2008 Posts: 602 Location: boston

Regardless of all of that, I think an even more important point is the fact that some innocent people are executed due to the death penalty and mistakes in the court system. Now that is a rather valid point for doing away with the death penalty. Every now and then you here a news story about some guy with a life sentence getting released due to new DNA tests that proved he was innocent. Things like that are a shame.

Well that's why I say it has to be with absolutely no doubt whatsover. Caught, red handed, DNA spot on, etc.

I don't bring God into my opinion on this. If there is a God, he can choose heaven or hell. My concern is having a safe society. We should not let rapists and murderers back on the streets. And at a cost of over $30K per year, we should not have to be paying for that either.

For me the problems with our system are not the question- for we know it's flawed and innocent have been charged before and the likes.

But for those who ARE guilty, I too agree they need removed from this Earth. The serial killers need to be stopped at 1 murder. And the Rapists and child molesters too- though with Rape IMO they should change it to two groups (Attacker charged)- Teens and Adults (not all life) and then infants to Pre teen (death) see I've seen situations where teens in relationships suddenly find the boy in prison cause he turned 18 and her parents hated him.

But I would rather keep the Earth clean of such evil, not contain them to influence the prisoners who CAN be rehabilitated for lesser crimes.

But then I also firmly believe that our "safety" programs are part of the worlds problem. We've allowed it so that terminally stupid people can breed Laughing

Natural selection can't do it's thing. And these people then find themselves in positions of influence. Razz

But for those who feel the evil people should be spared I must ask: would you feel the same if the person in question murdered your most loved in your life, and not just causally either, but brutally, slowly, and agonizingly painfully?

These are my ponders on this delicate topic. Smile

No disrespect to any of you my friends :D
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Just wanted to put this out there for those who are interested in the biblical view: what about the verse that says that men will reap what they sow? If they sow death, I believe that means they should reap it. Just thought I'd throw that out there. Smile

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Let's say the US did away with the Death Penalty, and our worst punishment was a life sentence. Each of those lifers cost money to be kept away. Thus an increase in costs which will chew up a larger portion of tax money.

Now here is the other side of that coin. That money that is now being devoted to an increase in prisoners could have been used for other things: say healthcare.

So, what if the choice came down to that: abolishing the death penalty, or spending more money to help those not convicted of serious crimes (which earn life sentences)?

It's easy enough to say that if you're boiling it down to a money problem, you're removing the human element of the situation, that by killing these people you are no better than them. But the bigger picture can also reveal that these convicts are hurting people even when they're in jail.

I will concede though that money should not be the ultimate deciding factor in this issue. Thus I think my main staying point is that I think there are crimes deserving of the death penalty, and that we are within our rights as sensible citizen, or faithful followers of God, by using such a form of punishment. My only reservation is that we do so responsibly.
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Those are good points, Skuldren, I never thought about it that way. I'll think some more about that.

It's not the Jedi way.....

...or is it....

:D
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Here's one for you Reep, what if Emperor Palpatine was on trial, would you opt for a life sentence or the death penalty? Cool

(As you can see, I decided against putting Satine on trial as we already know how that would go)
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Well, Palpz is evil so...
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AND he's too powerful to keep locked away.
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All things die, Anakin Skywalker, even stars burn out.

So this is how liberty dies....with thunderous applause.

Those without swords can still die upon them

The world is a mess and I just need to rule it.

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