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Posted: Sat Jul 31, 2010 7:32 pm
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Caedus_16 Master Joined: 15 Apr 2008 Posts: 4402 Location: Korriban What my purpose in that statement was meant as was that the Bible is something that was put together as a moral code for all Christianity. Its something that either needs to all be followed or none of it followed, I don't see it as something you can pick and choose out of. _________________ Perfection is a lifelong pursuit requiring sacrifice. The only way to get it quicker is to sacrifice the most.

Posted: Sun Aug 01, 2010 1:06 am
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illogicalRogue2 Administrator Joined: 01 Sep 2009 Posts: 2845 Location: ....last know presence was near the Tingel Arm.. Caedus_16 wrote: What my purpose in that statement was meant as was that the Bible is something that was put together as a moral code for all Christianity. Its something that either needs to all be followed or none of it followed, I don't see it as something you can pick and choose out of. But why not? each version of the bible the powers at the time picked and chose which apostles and prophets and saints to add to it after all. I agree, that the bible is a great moral code though. _________________ -Bring on your thousands, one at a time or all in a rush. I don't give a damn. None shall pass. - -To become a Jedi, it is not the Force one must learn to control but oneself. - -Podcasts: Star Wars Beyond the Films, The Star Wars Report, & EUCast

Posted: Sun Aug 01, 2010 8:49 am
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Caedus_16 Master Joined: 15 Apr 2008 Posts: 4402 Location: Korriban @IllogicalRogue Touche! hahaI hadn't considered that. But nonetheless, If you truly believe in God the rules in the bible makes sense as guidelines. I don't think they have to always be followed to the letter, but people have gotten into the habit of picking and choosing from the Bible in order to say that their own vices are ok. Did you know the entire concept of the rapture is nowhere in the bible? Its merely several texts taken and presented without paying attention to the texts around them and reading things into vague statements. Things like that and eliminating the parts that you don't like simply to suit your own lifestyle make me think that if you are going to put merit in it then you should put merit in the whole thing. _________________ Perfection is a lifelong pursuit requiring sacrifice. The only way to get it quicker is to sacrifice the most.

Posted: Sun Aug 01, 2010 1:48 pm
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Queen Padmè Skywalker Master Joined: 17 Jul 2009 Posts: 4930 Location: Sitting in front of a fireplace on Naboo exchanging pathetic dialogue with Anakin As far as the Bible goes, I firmly believe that God gave the words directly to those that wrote them and that He has preserved those words over time. God is all-powerful, so it's certainly not beyond Him to make sure His Word stood the test of time. And I think that's all I have to say on the subject. _________________ All things die, Anakin Skywalker, even stars burn out. So this is how liberty dies....with thunderous applause. Those without swords can still die upon them The world is a mess and I just need to rule it.

Posted: Sun Aug 01, 2010 2:37 pm
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illogicalRogue2 Administrator Joined: 01 Sep 2009 Posts: 2845 Location: ....last know presence was near the Tingel Arm.. Caedus_16 wrote: @IllogicalRogue Touche! hahaI hadn't considered that. But nonetheless, If you truly believe in God the rules in the bible makes sense as guidelines. I don't think they have to always be followed to the letter, but people have gotten into the habit of picking and choosing from the Bible in order to say that their own vices are ok. Did you know the entire concept of the rapture is nowhere in the bible? Its merely several texts taken and presented without paying attention to the texts around them and reading things into vague statements. Things like that and eliminating the parts that you don't like simply to suit your own lifestyle make me think that if you are going to put merit in it then you should put merit in the whole thing. I see where your going, And do agree on most parts. Though I will point out- not all the "pickers and choosers" are doing it just for their own ends. MANY have no idea the whole Bible and thus only take what they DO KNOW of it and in their ignorance look bad for it. But I've always said- in the END it's about EVERY ONES PERSONAL relationship to GOD. God will know if you were trying to be a good person or trying to cheat the system _________________ -Bring on your thousands, one at a time or all in a rush. I don't give a damn. None shall pass. - -To become a Jedi, it is not the Force one must learn to control but oneself. - -Podcasts: Star Wars Beyond the Films, The Star Wars Report, & EUCast

Posted: Sun Aug 01, 2010 2:41 pm
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illogicalRogue2 Administrator Joined: 01 Sep 2009 Posts: 2845 Location: ....last know presence was near the Tingel Arm.. Queen Padmè Skywalker wrote: As far as the Bible goes, I firmly believe that God gave the words directly to those that wrote them and that He has preserved those words over time. God is all-powerful, so it's certainly not beyond Him to make sure His Word stood the test of time. And I think that's all I have to say on the subject. I could buy into that if things like the dead sea scrolls and other documents keep popping up- which to me "God preserved" for a reason. Then I get perplexed- why would God have man leave that out to just have it re discovered later? So as I've said (for me) I can't see the Bible as a full on "straight from the source" resource. I do think that KNOWING the BIBLE is something everyone should inspire to do. It will make you a better person. _________________ -Bring on your thousands, one at a time or all in a rush. I don't give a damn. None shall pass. - -To become a Jedi, it is not the Force one must learn to control but oneself. - -Podcasts: Star Wars Beyond the Films, The Star Wars Report, & EUCast

Posted: Mon Aug 02, 2010 8:02 am
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Darth Skuldren Moderator Joined: 04 Feb 2008 Posts: 5758 Location: Missouri Quote: I do think that KNOWING the BIBLE is something everyone should inspire to do. It will make you a better person. I'll second that. In my opinion it's better to have a relationship with God than to memorize the Bible. God doesn't want us to worship a book, however, that doesn't demean the value of the lessons and knowledge therein. _________________

Posted: Mon Aug 02, 2010 9:46 am
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Reepicheep Master Joined: 05 Feb 2008 Posts: 5962 Location: Sailing into the unknown Keeping in mind it's not just about a relationship. _________________ Where sky and water meet, Where the waves grow sweet, Doubt not, Reepicheep, To find all you seek, There is the utter east.

Posted: Mon Aug 02, 2010 3:41 pm
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Anakinlover89 Knight Joined: 02 Feb 2008 Posts: 475 Location: Florida, U.S. It seems that everyone on this site is Christian which is interesting. It would be interesting to have a Muslim or Hindu come in on this discussion. Here's an interesting thought, do any of you believe that the God of Islam, Judaism, and Christianity is the same God? _________________

Posted: Mon Aug 02, 2010 3:43 pm
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Old Master Ben Administrator Joined: 10 Nov 2007 Posts: 2254 Location: Georgia I would hardly go to say that everyone on this site is a Christian...though there does seem to be a majority that believe in some greater power.

Posted: Mon Aug 02, 2010 4:01 pm
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Caedus_16 Master Joined: 15 Apr 2008 Posts: 4402 Location: Korriban @Anakinlover Actually I'm not Christian. I'm an agnostic, meaning that I believe there's some higher power and its probably God but as to his function or his limitations or his ability and plan I don't know for sure what to believe. I believe in being thorough though, and that's why I think that if one is going to follow part of the Bible you have to follow the whole thing. I personally keep Sabbath. Not strictly, but I do keep it. _________________ Perfection is a lifelong pursuit requiring sacrifice. The only way to get it quicker is to sacrifice the most.

Posted: Mon Aug 02, 2010 5:29 pm
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illogicalRogue2 Administrator Joined: 01 Sep 2009 Posts: 2845 Location: ....last know presence was near the Tingel Arm.. Anakinlover89 wrote: It seems that everyone on this site is Christian which is interesting. It would be interesting to have a Muslim or Hindu come in on this discussion. Here's an interesting thought, do any of you believe that the God of Islam, Judaism, and Christianity is the same God? I certainly thing it's all different versions of the same thing. It gets sketchy when we add all these man (writing for God) written word of God that conflict, and cause war and stuff. But to me there is only one power. I happen to call it God _________________ -Bring on your thousands, one at a time or all in a rush. I don't give a damn. None shall pass. - -To become a Jedi, it is not the Force one must learn to control but oneself. - -Podcasts: Star Wars Beyond the Films, The Star Wars Report, & EUCast

Posted: Mon Aug 02, 2010 5:34 pm
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illogicalRogue2 Administrator Joined: 01 Sep 2009 Posts: 2845 Location: ....last know presence was near the Tingel Arm.. Caedus_16 wrote: I personally keep Sabbath. Not strictly, but I do keep it. See and there's something that differs. To me it's always going to be Sunday, but my wife was raised 7th day Adventist, and for her that means Friday at sundown till saturday at sundown. We'd go round and round. (for fun) Which do we choose? In the end we tried to focus on God everyday, and don't have one day set but take moments as often as we can to say thanks to God and to live right and be better people. _________________ -Bring on your thousands, one at a time or all in a rush. I don't give a damn. None shall pass. - -To become a Jedi, it is not the Force one must learn to control but oneself. - -Podcasts: Star Wars Beyond the Films, The Star Wars Report, & EUCast

Posted: Mon Aug 02, 2010 7:39 pm
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Rouge77 Master Joined: 22 Mar 2008 Posts: 599 Anakinlover89 wrote: It seems that everyone on this site is Christian which is interesting. It would be interesting to have a Muslim or Hindu come in on this discussion. Here's an interesting thought, do any of you believe that the God of Islam, Judaism, and Christianity is the same God? I'm an atheist and yes, I think that the god in those religions is the same one.

Posted: Mon Aug 02, 2010 7:57 pm
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Caedus_16 Master Joined: 15 Apr 2008 Posts: 4402 Location: Korriban illogicalRogue2 wrote: To me it's always going to be Sunday, but my wife was raised 7th day Adventist, and for her that means Friday at sundown till saturday at sundown. What a coincidence, that's the day I keep because that's the faith I was raised in. _________________ Perfection is a lifelong pursuit requiring sacrifice. The only way to get it quicker is to sacrifice the most.

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