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Posted: Tue Mar 22, 2011 2:34 pm
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Darth Skuldren Moderator Joined: 04 Feb 2008 Posts: 5774 Location: Missouri I was checking out the starwars.com forums today, and came across this: http://forums.starwars.com/message.jspa?messageID=17960531#17960531 Here is what Sue posted in reply to someone's question... Quote: Sue, both the Conviction blurb and the back cover mention Daala gettin overthrown. As of the end of Vortex, that hadn't happened. So are we allowed to know- does Daala's overthrowing happen in-between books, or in the beginning on Conviction? Sue: Yes, it happens within the pages of one of the books. I can't think of which one -- they all run together for me. Lex replied with this... Quote: Sue, As a professional who understands the importance of client relations to a successful business, and as a long-time paying customer of EU novels, I find your response to the question regarding the Conviction blurb to be deeply troubling. I won't clog up the thread here with my thoughts, but you can read them at this link. Lex In response, Sue actually apologized. I thought Lex's post was very rude, and the link to their blog went on being rude. It was so offensive to me, that I can't abide by it. So I'm asking everyone to stop by Lex's blog post and leave a comment showing their support for Sue Rostoni and the work she has done for us. Here is a link to their blog: http://fangirlblog.com/2011/03/follow-up-reenergizing-eu-novels/#comment-1123 You can also show your support by posting on the starwars.com forums. _________________

Posted: Tue Mar 22, 2011 3:42 pm
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Crash Override Master Joined: 22 Dec 2010 Posts: 1846 I'm not quite understanding why everyone seems to think that it is rude...? Are we not supposed to provide negative feedback to Sue Rostoni? _________________ "Trust not the words of a poet, as he is born to seduce. Yet for poetry to seize the heart, it must ring with the chimes of truth.” “The world is understood through metaphors. Language is a metaphor-system. Mathematics is a metaphor-system. All real-world schools of magic and religion revolve around the understanding of vast metaphor-systems, symbols as they relate to concepts." "See, the thing is, everything everyone tells you is a lie. The truth is always bigger than the words we use to describe it."

Posted: Tue Mar 22, 2011 4:08 pm
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Reepicheep Master Joined: 05 Feb 2008 Posts: 5989 Location: Sailing into the unknown ^Because Sue Rostoni is overworked for our pleasure and houldn't be criticized for not knowing the details of every single Star Wars book ever written. I am so going on the blog and giving the bloggers a taste of my rapier. _________________ Where sky and water meet, Where the waves grow sweet, Doubt not, Reepicheep, To find all you seek, There is the utter east.

Posted: Tue Mar 22, 2011 4:26 pm
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Crash Override Master Joined: 22 Dec 2010 Posts: 1846 Reepicheep wrote: ^Because Sue Rostoni is overworked for our pleasure and houldn't be criticized for not knowing the details of every single Star Wars book ever written. I am so going on the blog and giving the bloggers a taste of my rapier. She's being criticized for saying the books all run together, which wasn't necessary in answering the question she answered and which gives the wrong impression about the novels. _________________ "Trust not the words of a poet, as he is born to seduce. Yet for poetry to seize the heart, it must ring with the chimes of truth.” “The world is understood through metaphors. Language is a metaphor-system. Mathematics is a metaphor-system. All real-world schools of magic and religion revolve around the understanding of vast metaphor-systems, symbols as they relate to concepts." "See, the thing is, everything everyone tells you is a lie. The truth is always bigger than the words we use to describe it."

Posted: Tue Mar 22, 2011 7:09 pm
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Mara Jade Skywalker Master Joined: 15 Feb 2008 Posts: 5359 Location: Beyond Shadows LivingJediDream wrote: She's being criticized for saying the books all run together, which wasn't necessary in answering the question she answered and which gives the wrong impression about the novels. I kind of agree with Jedi. While I realize that Sue is overbooked and works very hard for us (and therefore deserves no criticism in that sense), I do kind of find her response unprofessional. As Jedi says, to say all the books run together is kind of a negative statement regarding the series. It's important not to get so chummy with the fans that you can just say whatever you're actually feeling. A better response, if she really didn't remember, could have been, "It does occur in the pages of one of the books, but I cannot divulge that information at this time." It's the truth, but worded so as not to make the series sound like a chore to work with. I don't think Lex's initial reply was rude. However, I have not read the blog. I'm going to assume that he went overboard there. But yes, agreed with Jedi. I'm a Star Wars fan. I don't want to hear that the books are so similar/mediocre that they all just end up running together. Even if that is the truth for an editor, and understandably so, it just needs to be worded differently before being released to the fans. _________________ "It's not about the legacy you leave, it's about the life you live." ~Mara Jade Skywalker

Posted: Tue Mar 22, 2011 7:48 pm
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Cerrinea Master Joined: 09 Jun 2009 Posts: 1417 Lex is a she and she has an agenda. She doesn't think there's enough romance in Star Wars. She comes back to this theme over and over. That's her real issue with LucasBooks. And the reply was rude. In essence she was saying she was more professional than Sue and the "deeply troubling" remark was really over the top. I find a lot of thing deeply troubling. Sue not remembering which book what was in is not one of them. Lex needs to get over herself. _________________ Roqoo Depot co-founder.

Posted: Tue Mar 22, 2011 8:24 pm
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Crash Override Master Joined: 22 Dec 2010 Posts: 1846 Cerrinea wrote: Lex is a she and she has an agenda. She doesn't think there's enough romance in Star Wars. She comes back to this theme over and over. That's her real issue with LucasBooks. And the reply was rude. In essence she was saying she was more professional than Sue and the "deeply troubling" remark was really over the top. I find a lot of thing deeply troubling. Sue not remembering which book what was in is not one of them. Lex needs to get over herself. I think Lex is a guy. Other people at the fangirl forum use a masculine pronoun to refer to him. I just started posting at that forum a week or two ago, and I seemed to gather that he's a guy. The general consensus of that forum isn't that there needs to be more romance, just that Jaina is poorly written. And rather ironically, I was mentioning at that forum how I disliked that LOTF seemed to "run together" and how I legitimately can't distinguish events that occur within proximate books through Tempest to Revelation, and Sue posted that at TOS the next day. _________________ "Trust not the words of a poet, as he is born to seduce. Yet for poetry to seize the heart, it must ring with the chimes of truth.” “The world is understood through metaphors. Language is a metaphor-system. Mathematics is a metaphor-system. All real-world schools of magic and religion revolve around the understanding of vast metaphor-systems, symbols as they relate to concepts." "See, the thing is, everything everyone tells you is a lie. The truth is always bigger than the words we use to describe it." Last edited by Crash Override on Tue Mar 22, 2011 8:26 pm; edited 1 time in total

Posted: Tue Mar 22, 2011 8:26 pm
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Cerrinea Master Joined: 09 Jun 2009 Posts: 1417 Lex is a she. I know that she's a she. _________________ Roqoo Depot co-founder.

Posted: Tue Mar 22, 2011 8:27 pm
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Crash Override Master Joined: 22 Dec 2010 Posts: 1846 Ah, well I don't know, I'm new there, but I've only seen Lex referred to as a male, but if that's the case, I stand corrected. _________________ "Trust not the words of a poet, as he is born to seduce. Yet for poetry to seize the heart, it must ring with the chimes of truth.” “The world is understood through metaphors. Language is a metaphor-system. Mathematics is a metaphor-system. All real-world schools of magic and religion revolve around the understanding of vast metaphor-systems, symbols as they relate to concepts." "See, the thing is, everything everyone tells you is a lie. The truth is always bigger than the words we use to describe it."

Posted: Tue Mar 22, 2011 8:28 pm
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Caedus_16 Master Joined: 15 Apr 2008 Posts: 4434 Location: Korriban Regardless of the gender, he/she/it is a poster with an agenda and who seems to be looking for something to whine about _________________ Perfection is a lifelong pursuit requiring sacrifice. The only way to get it quicker is to sacrifice the most.

Posted: Tue Mar 22, 2011 8:30 pm
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Crash Override Master Joined: 22 Dec 2010 Posts: 1846 I find it an interesting switch that everyone is the apologist now, when typically I'm the TCW apologist here lol. I'm not sure why having an agenda is being portrayed as a negative. She's not happy with the current state of the flagship fiction and she's making it known. Personally, were I so inclined I don't think I would need to look for reasons to whine about LOTF/FOTJ, because Del Rey and LucasBooks have given plenty. _________________ "Trust not the words of a poet, as he is born to seduce. Yet for poetry to seize the heart, it must ring with the chimes of truth.” “The world is understood through metaphors. Language is a metaphor-system. Mathematics is a metaphor-system. All real-world schools of magic and religion revolve around the understanding of vast metaphor-systems, symbols as they relate to concepts." "See, the thing is, everything everyone tells you is a lie. The truth is always bigger than the words we use to describe it."

Posted: Tue Mar 22, 2011 8:33 pm
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Caedus_16 Master Joined: 15 Apr 2008 Posts: 4434 Location: Korriban Ya but nonetheless, she was b****ing about a reply she was unhappy with. Rostini didn't have to answer her question, but she did as best she could when she had a spare moment. Then she insulted the entire publishing agency on it. I'll admit the books should be longer, the plot could be better, and the blurb she whined about could have been more interesting, but nonetheless we demand so much from them and they keep up fairly well. she was out of line with her statements towards Rostini, but I think she has right to complain about the story if she wants. _________________ Perfection is a lifelong pursuit requiring sacrifice. The only way to get it quicker is to sacrifice the most.

Posted: Tue Mar 22, 2011 8:36 pm
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Cerrinea Master Joined: 09 Jun 2009 Posts: 1417 Actually, Sue did answer the question that was put to here. Her big sin was saying the books ran together for her because she saw the story as a whole unit. Remember, she's way ahead of the fans when it comes to the books. _________________ Roqoo Depot co-founder.

Posted: Tue Mar 22, 2011 8:37 pm
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Caedus_16 Master Joined: 15 Apr 2008 Posts: 4434 Location: Korriban Cerrinea wrote: Actually, Sue did answer the question that was put to here. Her big sin was saying the books ran together for her because she saw the story as a whole unit. Remember, she's way ahead of the fans when it comes to the books. That's kind of what I was trying to say. My bad. I meant that Lex didn't get it answered how she wanted. I actually Understand Sue's point of view and think that its just fine that they run together for her. Sorry, should've been more clear when I typed it _________________ Perfection is a lifelong pursuit requiring sacrifice. The only way to get it quicker is to sacrifice the most.

Posted: Tue Mar 22, 2011 8:39 pm
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Crash Override Master Joined: 22 Dec 2010 Posts: 1846 Well, going back to what Rostoni said, the question was whether Daala's overthrow was something that happens in the books, or whether by its nature of being in the blurb, it happens in-between the books. She answered that question "Yes, it happens within the pages of one of the books. I can’t think of which one — they all run together for me." The bolded part was unnecessary, and I can see why it troubled Lex. Now, was Lex rude in her response? Maybe. I don't really think so, but I've worked in customer service and I've seen a lot worse. I just don't see why being rude toward Lex is particularly useful, and it seems that people upset about what she said are making this a lot bigger than it needed to be. _________________ "Trust not the words of a poet, as he is born to seduce. Yet for poetry to seize the heart, it must ring with the chimes of truth.” “The world is understood through metaphors. Language is a metaphor-system. Mathematics is a metaphor-system. All real-world schools of magic and religion revolve around the understanding of vast metaphor-systems, symbols as they relate to concepts." "See, the thing is, everything everyone tells you is a lie. The truth is always bigger than the words we use to describe it."

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