General Complaint About The Old Republic

Yeah, I won't let it keep me from enjoying the TOR era. Smile

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Master Joined: 22 Mar 2008 Posts: 599

I didn't know that. That's interesting.

It still doesn't explain the uniforms and heraldry though.
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Hold on a second. Uniforms? Just the uniforms, or are you including armour in that, too? The uniforms I don't have a problem with, because who, exactly, remembers a uniform for non frontline officers (ie, not in the public eye) 3,000 years ago?

And, let me just point out, the armour. The Sith armour is completely different. Taking a closer look at the Hope trailer, the Sith trooper armour is some weird black Mando/underwater suit amalgamation. It's the republic that has armour reminiscent of the Clone armour of the Clone War era.
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Knight Joined: 12 Apr 2011 Posts: 386 Location: Canada

To speak to the question of people embracing a 'new' sith empire 1000 years later, its quite possible that the vast majority of the population has no idea about what the similarities were.

Please, ask the average person on the street what the big deal was about The Battle of Agincourt, Siege of Harfleur or Battle of Patay was.

Blank stares? Ok, lets try this again. Lets ask them what the Hundred Years War was. Or who was involved?

Still nothing? Ask them what the French Flag looked like. Any of them draw this?

Didn't think so.

Try this. That was about 600 years ago.

But that wasn't my country you say? All right, for you Americans, how many of you could remember what a Red Coat wore during the War for Independence. And you need to be more specific than 'a red jacket'.

How many of you could describe it without looking it up?

I'm going to go with not very many.

Now, add 1000 years, multiply by thousands of species with hundreds of different languages, their own petty wars and squabbles to worry about, the fact that most of them probably didn't know what government they had even been under 1000 years ago, and you're left with the point that probably less than 1/100,000 (or fewer) individuals had any idea that there was a connection.

Palpatine, being who he was, would have just carefully...removed...anyone who tried to speak out publically about the similarities, and destroy all mention of it. It wouldn't be that hard at all to obscure the similarities.

ESPECIALLY since the perverted Imperial symbol was similar to one of the GAR that had just spent the last 3 years saving everyone's lives.

Deception and no one noticing similarities would actually be a really easy thing to accomplish. [/img]

Brilliant examples, Henning. That really puts things in perspective. Althought I must admit my own historical interests are in Germany or ancient medieval societies. But even then, I don't think I could point out a Spartan helmet from a Greek helmet. I just know what the Corinthian and Thracian styles look like Wink

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Knight Joined: 12 Apr 2011 Posts: 386 Location: Canada

Good points, Henning! (Welcome by the way)

A couple things to consider though...

There are such things as historians. Even if the masses weren't familiar with ancient Sith symbols, the historians would be. And I'm sure they would've brought it to attention. And honestly, it wouyldn't even take historians. You said to dscribe a redcoats uniform without looking it up, but the thing is people in the GFFA can look it up.

With your French flag you used, I'll admit I had no idea that was what their flag looked like. However the fleur-de-lis, a commonly known French symbol, is prominently featured on it. I expect the ancient Sith logo (is that what you would call it?) would be much the same. The exact flag? No. The symbols? Yes.

Palpatine removing the opposition makes it slightly more credible, but I'm still not buying it. Imagine trying to eliminate the memory of a well-known culture. Think about all the sources (books, newspapers, magazines, movies, documentaries, encyclopedias, databases etc) that have information about this culture. And in Star Wars, we're not just dealing with one world, but an entire galaxy.
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Last edited by Reepicheep on Tue Apr 12, 2011 7:47 pm; edited 1 time in total

For your first point, I refer you to what I said about historians and just how hard it would be to erase information about a particular culture.

And for the second point, I think I'll have to say point taken. It always struck me as a French symbol, but that might not be the case for everyone.

As for the third: gotcha! Wink

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Where the waves grow sweet,
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Knight Joined: 12 Apr 2011 Posts: 386 Location: Canada

Oh am I?

Well you know what I mean. I can't argue further on that particular point because Henning has pretty much shot my argument to pieces (in a gracious way I might add!). Wink

EDIT: This was meant to be a response to OMB...^^
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Where sky and water meet,
Where the waves grow sweet,
Doubt not, Reepicheep,
To find all you seek,
There is the utter east.

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We should speak like characters in a Zahn novel and say "Point."

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