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As a Star Wars fan...

...you're equally interested in Star Trek.  31%  [ 11 ] ...you're only casually interested in Star Trek.  25%  [ 9 ] ...you have zero interest in Star Trek.  34%  [ 12 ] ...you despise Star Trek...including Trekkies.  8%  [ 3 ]

Total Votes : 35

Posted: Mon Apr 18, 2011 3:04 am
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illogicalRogue2 Administrator Joined: 01 Sep 2009 Posts: 2847 Location: ....last know presence was near the Tingel Arm.. Lord Ree'dius wrote: YodaBauer2442 wrote: I heart this video. http://www.collegehumor.com/video/4026025/deja-view-my-favorite-movie-star-trek-vs-star-wars Yes, this video shows exactly how unoriginal this "new" Star Trek is. I"ve seen it and and was just amazed with how much was "borrowed" *cough*stolen*cough* from SW! And it was still a terrible movie It's the circle of life. Lucas digs Trek, then Trek digs Wars. I mean it's never been a secret that JJ Abrams aimed to make the new Trek as much like SW as he could. It's a winning philosophy- put SW in it- or Make it more SW and it's a hit to most sci-fi lovers. _________________ -Bring on your thousands, one at a time or all in a rush. I don't give a damn. None shall pass. - -To become a Jedi, it is not the Force one must learn to control but oneself. - -Podcasts: Star Wars Beyond the Films, The Star Wars Report, & EUCast

Posted: Mon Apr 18, 2011 4:12 am
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Lord Ree'dius Master Joined: 11 Apr 2011 Posts: 700 Location: The Unknown Regions illogicalRogue2 wrote: I mean it's never been a secret that JJ Abrams aimed to make the new Trek as much like SW as he could. It's a winning philosophy- put SW in it- or Make it more SW and it's a hit to most sci-fi lovers. It's true. But for a SW-fan like me, who has only casual interrest in most things non-SW it just looks like a total rip-off. The new Star Trek is taking "making it like SW" to literally. And I could have swallowed that had it been a good movie besides that fact, but sadly it wasn't IMO. _________________ "Strong you are with the dark side, young one. But not that strong. Still much to learn, you have. Surrender, you should." "You're going to find that many of the truths we cling to depend greatly on our own point of view." http://www.reedius.deviantart.com/

Posted: Mon Apr 18, 2011 11:13 am
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Queen Padmè Skywalker Master Joined: 17 Jul 2009 Posts: 4948 Location: Sitting in front of a fireplace on Naboo exchanging pathetic dialogue with Anakin The new Trek is actually the only one I have even mildly enjoyed. _________________ All things die, Anakin Skywalker, even stars burn out. So this is how liberty dies....with thunderous applause. Those without swords can still die upon them The world is a mess and I just need to rule it.

Posted: Mon Apr 18, 2011 12:08 pm
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illogicalRogue2 Administrator Joined: 01 Sep 2009 Posts: 2847 Location: ....last know presence was near the Tingel Arm.. Queen Padmè Skywalker wrote: The new Trek is actually the only one I have even mildly enjoyed. Movie wise- I enjoyed First Contact the most. But this new one was as good as Nemisis. Though they still have a timeline to restore here at some point. _________________ -Bring on your thousands, one at a time or all in a rush. I don't give a damn. None shall pass. - -To become a Jedi, it is not the Force one must learn to control but oneself. - -Podcasts: Star Wars Beyond the Films, The Star Wars Report, & EUCast

Posted: Mon Apr 18, 2011 9:45 pm
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Queen Padmè Skywalker Master Joined: 17 Jul 2009 Posts: 4948 Location: Sitting in front of a fireplace on Naboo exchanging pathetic dialogue with Anakin Nemesis? Nemesis???? My mom being a Trekkie, I've seen most of the films. And that was the one both of us hated the most. _________________ All things die, Anakin Skywalker, even stars burn out. So this is how liberty dies....with thunderous applause. Those without swords can still die upon them The world is a mess and I just need to rule it.

Posted: Mon Apr 18, 2011 10:13 pm
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YodaBauer2442 Knight Joined: 06 Apr 2011 Posts: 309 Location: Sofa We watched Nemesis in my high school SciFi club. We spent most of the time talking off topic or just riffing the movie. At our point out advisor said "Not every sentence needs a comment." Than a character from the film said "Oh, but it does!" We all cracked up! _________________ "To understand what happened at the diner, we use Mr. Papaya. This is upsetting because he is the friendliest of fruits. " Dr. Walter Bishop "WHERE'S THE FIRE?! I've always loved that expression, which is curious since my lab assistant was killed in a fire." - Walter Bishop

Posted: Mon Oct 24, 2011 2:56 pm
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Alan Skywalker V Knight Joined: 10 Apr 2011 Posts: 436 It's official: I've gone off the deep end. After several months of wrestling with the issue, I have finally decided to do the rest of the Star Trek series. In short, I'm going to buy the ENT, TOS, TAS, DS9, and VOY season sets, the rest of the TOS films, and all the books, comics and short stories. Crazy? Maybe so. WIll it take years? Definitely. But I'm doing it!

Posted: Mon Oct 24, 2011 3:43 pm
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GrandMaster Knight Joined: 26 Aug 2011 Posts: 267 Location: Earth Jedi Temple illogicalRogue2 wrote: the books that did follow a continuity- those set after TNG movies- were pretty good- but worked themselves into a place that ST became less ST and more SW and then we had the "timeline reboot" in the last movie to "fix this problem" I was introduced to Star Trek first because DS9 and Voyager were both on the air when I was growing up, but I came to Star Wars with the prequels. I like the two franchises equally, alongside Harry Potter. Since I read both SW and ST books, this means I have almost no time to do anything else. The "reboot" hasn't affected the book continuity - they are two separate realities. The books are still continuing with the same continuity. _________________ "But it was so artistically done." “No. I am Ganner. This threshold is mine. I claim it for my own. Bring on your thousands, one at a time or all in a rush. I don’t give a damn. None shall pass.” “Eventually, we all betray something, Tahiri. It’s what you stay true to that counts.” "Shaken, not stirred, will get you cold water with a dash of gin and dry vermouth. The reason you stir it with a special spoon is so not to chip the ice. James is ordering a weak martini and being snooty about it."

Posted: Mon Oct 24, 2011 9:51 pm
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ADG12311990 Padawan Joined: 20 Jun 2011 Posts: 85 Location: Greeley, Colorado, America, Earth, Sol System, Sector 13-A, Outer Rim, Milky Way Galaxy Star Trek was my first Sci Fi love. I remember being 1 or 2 and watching an episode of TOS. And Trek was my first love until '95. When it comes to the shows, I love them in the order they were made. As for the films, Wrath of Khan, First Contact and Star Trek XI are my top three favorites.

Posted: Sun Nov 27, 2011 4:17 pm
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Alan Skywalker V Knight Joined: 10 Apr 2011 Posts: 436 Does anyone know of a site where I could watch ALL the ST episodes for free? I'm wanting to start watching with ENT on New Year's Day and watch one episode/movie per day. However, I don't have all the season sets yet and it would take several years to get them. So, if anyone knows a site where I can watch them free, please tell me. (Yes, I know there's Youtube, but I doubt all of the episodes are available there, which is why I'm looking.) Also, if anyone knows of a reliable guide that shows how the last two seasons and first three films of TNG, all of DS9, and the first four or five seasons of VOY fit together, please give me a link. I'll drive myself insane trying to figure out how to piece the timeline fron 2369-2375 together on my own.

Posted: Sun Nov 27, 2011 5:18 pm
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illogicalRogue2 Administrator Joined: 01 Sep 2009 Posts: 2847 Location: ....last know presence was near the Tingel Arm.. Alan Skywalker V wrote: It's official: I've gone off the deep end. After several months of wrestling with the issue, I have finally decided to do the rest of the Star Trek series. In short, I'm going to buy the ENT, TOS, TAS, DS9, and VOY season sets, the rest of the TOS films, and all the books, comics and short stories. Crazy? Maybe so. WIll it take years? Definitely. But I'm doing it! All the tv shows are on Netflicks Save ya some money. _________________ -Bring on your thousands, one at a time or all in a rush. I don't give a damn. None shall pass. - -To become a Jedi, it is not the Force one must learn to control but oneself. - -Podcasts: Star Wars Beyond the Films, The Star Wars Report, & EUCast

Posted: Sun Nov 27, 2011 5:24 pm
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illogicalRogue2 Administrator Joined: 01 Sep 2009 Posts: 2847 Location: ....last know presence was near the Tingel Arm.. illogicalRogue2 wrote: the books that did follow a continuity- those set after TNG movies- were pretty good- but worked themselves into a place that ST became less ST and more SW and then we had the "timeline reboot" in the last movie to "fix this problem" The "reboot" hasn't affected the book continuity - they are two separate realities. The books are still continuing with the same continuity. Yes, it hasn't effected the current book continuity yet- they have yet to place when Alpha Spock goes back in time. But they HAVE shoe horned themselves in the current Continuity with the Borg and their sudden evolution into Gods who have left the Trek galaxy more akin to the SW one with the rebels on the run from the empire. In that regard it made sense to hit reboot for the movie- all they have done is made the new movie a spectacular series set in a timeline loop. you know they'll be fixing the timeline at somepoint to avoid the lost timeline. _________________ -Bring on your thousands, one at a time or all in a rush. I don't give a damn. None shall pass. - -To become a Jedi, it is not the Force one must learn to control but oneself. - -Podcasts: Star Wars Beyond the Films, The Star Wars Report, & EUCast

Posted: Mon Nov 28, 2011 9:40 am
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Taral-DLOS EUC Staff Joined: 23 Nov 2010 Posts: 1259 Location: Ontario, Canada Alan Skywalker V wrote: Also, if anyone knows of a reliable guide that shows how the last two seasons and first three films of TNG, all of DS9, and the first four or five seasons of VOY fit together, please give me a link. I'll drive myself insane trying to figure out how to piece the timeline fron 2369-2375 together on my own. www.ex-astris-scientia.org is a good source for that kind of information. The author is a bit militant in his views (he sometimes completely dismissed information that we might call "G-canon", because it doesn't fit his view). But he's got all the facts there. And he links to some really cool fansites. Another good one is www.memory-alpha.org. Memory Alpha is the Star Trek version of Wookieepedia. It ignores the books and comics (but I think there's a Memory Beta too, that covers books). There's no real need to try and fit exactly how TNG/DS9 relate to VOY, since it isn't until very late in VOY when there's finally crossovers (I think the first time Voyager actually made contact with the Federation was in Season 4, so the very very end of DS9). And there's only one season of overlap between TNG and DS9. Honestly, the easiest way to figure out when events of one series take place, relative to the other series is by airdate. In TNG, DS9, and VOY, the airdate is a fairly good indicator of time. One season is roughly one calendar year, and, given any particular overlapping season, Episode 7 of one series is roughly concurrent with Episode 7 of the other series. Same go with movies; Insurrection was released in 1998, and is concurrent with late Season 6/early Season 7 of DS9; Nemesis was released in 2002 and in the dialogue they said it had been 15 years since the beginning of TNG (1987). _________________ It was the year of fire… the year of destruction… the year we took back what was ours. It was the year of rebirth… the year of great sadness… the year of pain… and the year of joy. It was a new age. It was the end of history. It was the year everything changed. The year is 2261. The place: Babylon 5.

Posted: Mon Nov 28, 2011 11:44 am
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GrandMaster Knight Joined: 26 Aug 2011 Posts: 267 Location: Earth Jedi Temple Alan Skywalker V wrote: Does anyone know of a site where I could watch ALL the ST episodes for free? I'm wanting to start watching with ENT on New Year's Day and watch one episode/movie per day. However, I don't have all the season sets yet and it would take several years to get them. So, if anyone knows a site where I can watch them free, please tell me. You can watch ENT and TOS on startrek.com http://www.startrek.com/videos/star-trek-enterprise http://www.startrek.com/videos/star-trek-the-original-series _________________ "But it was so artistically done." “No. I am Ganner. This threshold is mine. I claim it for my own. Bring on your thousands, one at a time or all in a rush. I don’t give a damn. None shall pass.” “Eventually, we all betray something, Tahiri. It’s what you stay true to that counts.” "Shaken, not stirred, will get you cold water with a dash of gin and dry vermouth. The reason you stir it with a special spoon is so not to chip the ice. James is ordering a weak martini and being snooty about it."

Posted: Mon Nov 28, 2011 11:47 am
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Alan Skywalker V Knight Joined: 10 Apr 2011 Posts: 436 GrandMaster wrote: Alan Skywalker V wrote: Does anyone know of a site where I could watch ALL the ST episodes for free? I'm wanting to start watching with ENT on New Year's Day and watch one episode/movie per day. However, I don't have all the season sets yet and it would take several years to get them. So, if anyone knows a site where I can watch them free, please tell me. You can watch ENT and TOS on startrek.com http://www.startrek.com/videos/star-trek-enterprise http://www.startrek.com/videos/star-trek-the-original-series Thanks. Are the Animated Series, DS9, and Voyager available to watch there too? Edit: Scratch that, GM. I just checked and saw that all of the Animated Series eps are available, but no DS9 or VOY, unfortunantly. Oh, well. At least I can get most of it, though I noticed that a few ENT episodes were missing for some reason. Last edited by Alan Skywalker V on Mon Nov 28, 2011 12:03 pm; edited 1 time in total

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