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Posted: Sat Apr 30, 2011 9:10 pm
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YodaBauer2442 Knight Joined: 06 Apr 2011 Posts: 309 Location: Sofa Hey TC, err, Consular! Glad to see you found your way here too! It's kinda fun talking to the same person on different boards. _________________ "To understand what happened at the diner, we use Mr. Papaya. This is upsetting because he is the friendliest of fruits. " Dr. Walter Bishop "WHERE'S THE FIRE?! I've always loved that expression, which is curious since my lab assistant was killed in a fire." - Walter Bishop

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Posted: Mon May 02, 2011 2:31 am
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Life Is The Path Master Joined: 10 Sep 2010 Posts: 3407 Location: In a galaxy far, far - No, I'm behind you! Got you! Boo! JediConsular wrote: Hmmm, enjoy TCW as part of the Saga...and the EU? Why not? Do they require some more "motivation", My Master? But jokes aside, I completely agree with you, divides amoung fans is hardly a reason to close the forum. As for some of the other reasons I can quickly remember, I don't believe any of them either: financial concerns (whatever! This is LucasOnline we are talking about for goodness sake, not some start-up little company in the Dunesea on Tatooine), and the inappropriate posts/threads reason (not happening either, we had great mods and these things can be deleted from the forum if they are outside the Terms of Use). None of it makes any sense to me. Yeah, there's still a lot of head-scratching on my part, over the closer. But anyway, I just wanted to explain what IR2 meant. Or at least what I'm pretty sure he meant. If not, just correct me, Rogue! TCW, most fans believe, is part of the EU because it is not rated G-Canon, but T-Canon, and has its own level on the Continuity scale (said T-Canon), and thus considered part of the expanded universe. This is not the case. The reason it has its own level is because of 'book-keeping'. No, not the financial kind. I mean the Continuity Holocron kind. Basically, they gave it its own level so they can keep track of the origins of plot points, stories, characters, developments and actions - things like that - so that they don't get it confused with G-Canon. For all intents and purposes, Leland Chee says, it is to be considered G-Canon, and thus not EU. _________________ I am a Star Wars fan. That doesn't mean that I hate or love Jar Jar. That doesn't mean I hate or love Lucas, or agree or disagree 100% with him. That doesn't mean I prefer the PT over the OT, or vice versa. That doesn't mean I hate the EU, or even love all of it. These are not prerequisites. Being a man is not a prerequisite. Being a geek is not a prerequisite. The only prerequisite is that I love something about Star Wars. I am a Star Wars fan.

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Posted: Mon May 02, 2011 11:04 am
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JediConsular Padawan Joined: 29 Apr 2011 Posts: 53 Location: A galaxy far, far away... Life Is The Path wrote: Yeah, there's still a lot of head-scratching on my part, over the closer. But anyway, I just wanted to explain what IR2 meant. Or at least what I'm pretty sure he meant. If not, just correct me, Rogue! TCW, most fans believe, is part of the EU because it is not rated G-Canon, but T-Canon, and has its own level on the Continuity scale (said T-Canon), and thus considered part of the expanded universe. This is not the case. The reason it has its own level is because of 'book-keeping'. No, not the financial kind. I mean the Continuity Holocron kind. Basically, they gave it its own level so they can keep track of the origins of plot points, stories, characters, developments and actions - things like that - so that they don't get it confused with G-Canon. For all intents and purposes, Leland Chee says, it is to be considered G-Canon, and thus not EU. Thanks, I'm glad I'm not the only one left in confusion over the closer and wanting an answer. As for TCW, I have to admit, I have always considered it G-Canon, seeing as how Mr. Lucas has explained that it is under his direct control, just like the movies were. This said, I could never understand it having its own canon level, until now. Thank you for that information, I really appreciate it _________________ "Many of the truths we cling to, depend greatly on our own point of view" ~ Obi-Wan Kenobi

Posted: Mon May 02, 2011 11:12 am
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JediConsular Padawan Joined: 29 Apr 2011 Posts: 53 Location: A galaxy far, far away... YodaBauer2442 wrote: Hey TC, err, Consular! Glad to see you found your way here too! It's kinda fun talking to the same person on different boards. haha, yes, it's 'Consular' now TOS was the first Star Wars forum I joined, and well, since I was really sad about its closing, I though a new home deserved a new username too _________________ "Many of the truths we cling to, depend greatly on our own point of view" ~ Obi-Wan Kenobi

Posted: Mon May 02, 2011 11:16 am
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Lord Ree'dius Master Joined: 11 Apr 2011 Posts: 700 Location: The Unknown Regions Welcome, JediConsular _________________ "Strong you are with the dark side, young one. But not that strong. Still much to learn, you have. Surrender, you should." "You're going to find that many of the truths we cling to depend greatly on our own point of view." http://www.reedius.deviantart.com/

Posted: Mon May 02, 2011 5:46 pm
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YodaBauer2442 Knight Joined: 06 Apr 2011 Posts: 309 Location: Sofa TOS was the first Star Wars forum I joined, and well, since I was really sad about its closing, I though a new home deserved a new username too Completely fair. I am just to fond of my SN as it references my to biggest fandoms: SW and 24. _________________ "To understand what happened at the diner, we use Mr. Papaya. This is upsetting because he is the friendliest of fruits. " Dr. Walter Bishop "WHERE'S THE FIRE?! I've always loved that expression, which is curious since my lab assistant was killed in a fire." - Walter Bishop

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Posted: Tue May 03, 2011 5:17 pm
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illogicalRogue2 Administrator Joined: 01 Sep 2009 Posts: 2845 Location: ....last know presence was near the Tingel Arm.. Life Is The Path wrote: But anyway, I just wanted to explain what IR2 meant. Or at least what I'm pretty sure he meant. If not, just correct me, Rogue! TCW, most fans believe, is part of the EU because it is not rated G-Canon, but T-Canon, and has its own level on the Continuity scale (said T-Canon), and thus considered part of the expanded universe. This is not the case. The reason it has its own level is because of 'book-keeping'. No, not the financial kind. I mean the Continuity Holocron kind. Basically, they gave it its own level so they can keep track of the origins of plot points, stories, characters, developments and actions - things like that - so that they don't get it confused with G-Canon. For all intents and purposes, Leland Chee says, it is to be considered G-Canon, and thus not EU. Well said! Yeah it's a complicated thing that Canon levels. It all starts with the "3 tiers". The Father - George's stuff- The films, and TCW TV shows. (What is G-level in all but the Holocron) The Son - Lucas licensing (The general EU) The Holy Ghost - Fanfic Now of these only the Father and the Son count as continuity. And of that Continuity it gets broke down for the "Holocron" the in business record keeping system. This is where things like TCW being T-level got some of us confused (ok it had me confused there for a while, but I've figured it out and have got it all sorted now) Under the holocron only the Films are (G-level), with TCW being T-level and the Books and comics mainly C-level Games falling between and mainly S-level and the infinities as N-canon. But the Holocron itself is but a record keeper. they needed to label TCW as T-level so as not to have it under the films in the internal system. The tv show is still G-level canon- but the books that chronicle the show are C-level And Chee's statement about T-level canon being considered G-level look at it under the tiers all Father tier is G-level straight from the top. Hope that helps as well. _________________ -Bring on your thousands, one at a time or all in a rush. I don't give a damn. None shall pass. - -To become a Jedi, it is not the Force one must learn to control but oneself. - -Podcasts: Star Wars Beyond the Films, The Star Wars Report, & EUCast

Posted: Tue May 03, 2011 8:19 pm
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DarkSideSon Knight Joined: 10 Apr 2011 Posts: 169 Location: A floating diamond which no-one really seems to acknowledge Does this mean I represent the Dark Side of the EU? _________________ "The Son has risen. Let the discussion begin!"

Posted: Wed May 04, 2011 10:54 am
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JediConsular Padawan Joined: 29 Apr 2011 Posts: 53 Location: A galaxy far, far away... Lord Ree'dius wrote: Welcome, JediConsular Thank you, Lord Ree'dius! _________________ "Many of the truths we cling to, depend greatly on our own point of view" ~ Obi-Wan Kenobi

Posted: Wed May 04, 2011 11:01 am
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JediConsular Padawan Joined: 29 Apr 2011 Posts: 53 Location: A galaxy far, far away... YodaBauer2442 wrote: TOS was the first Star Wars forum I joined, and well, since I was really sad about its closing, I though a new home deserved a new username too Completely fair. I am just to fond of my SN as it references my to biggest fandoms: SW and 24. AH!! I knew it! The first time I saw your SN on TOS, I thought of Jack Bauer and I wondered if 24 had something to do with your chosen moniker PS: I'm a pretty big 24 fan too, so excellent screenname, YodaBauer! _________________ "Many of the truths we cling to, depend greatly on our own point of view" ~ Obi-Wan Kenobi

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Posted: Wed May 04, 2011 11:11 am
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JediConsular Padawan Joined: 29 Apr 2011 Posts: 53 Location: A galaxy far, far away... illogicalRogue2 wrote: Well said! Yeah it's a complicated thing that Canon levels. It all starts with the "3 tiers". The Father - George's stuff- The films, and TCW TV shows. (What is G-level in all but the Holocron) The Son - Lucas licensing (The general EU) The Holy Ghost - Fanfic Now of these only the Father and the Son count as continuity. And of that Continuity it gets broke down for the "Holocron" the in business record keeping system. This is where things like TCW being T-level got some of us confused (ok it had me confused there for a while, but I've figured it out and have got it all sorted now) Under the holocron only the Films are (G-level), with TCW being T-level and the Books and comics mainly C-level Games falling between and mainly S-level and the infinities as N-canon. But the Holocron itself is but a record keeper. they needed to label TCW as T-level so as not to have it under the films in the internal system. The tv show is still G-level canon- but the books that chronicle the show are C-level And Chee's statement about T-level canon being considered G-level look at it under the tiers all Father tier is G-level straight from the top. Hope that helps as well. It does, thank you so much, illogicalRogue2 Like I said before, I kind of always assumed TCW as being part of G-Canon, but I just didn't get why it should have it's own canon level in that case. I never knew of all the administrative and business issues involved. And I didn't know that the books about the show was considered C-level, I thought that went under the T-level as well...How do the folks at LFL keep it all straight? It's such a huge galaxy, it's bewildering! _________________ "Many of the truths we cling to, depend greatly on our own point of view" ~ Obi-Wan Kenobi

Posted: Wed May 04, 2011 11:13 am
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JediConsular Padawan Joined: 29 Apr 2011 Posts: 53 Location: A galaxy far, far away... DarkSideSon wrote: Does this mean I represent the Dark Side of the EU? Nope. Sorry. You've been far to nice to me since I joined to represent Dark Side-anything. Sorry. Not happening. _________________ "Many of the truths we cling to, depend greatly on our own point of view" ~ Obi-Wan Kenobi

Posted: Wed May 04, 2011 1:40 pm
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YodaBauer2442 Knight Joined: 06 Apr 2011 Posts: 309 Location: Sofa JediConsular wrote: AH!! I knew it! The first time I saw your SN on TOS, I thought of Jack Bauer and I wondered if 24 had something to do with your chosen moniker PS: I'm a pretty big 24 fan too, so excellent screenname, YodaBauer! SW and 24 are my two big fandoms! I have started watching all of the first episodes of the seasons, followed by the second and third etc. Just to compare how the seasons develop. _________________ "To understand what happened at the diner, we use Mr. Papaya. This is upsetting because he is the friendliest of fruits. " Dr. Walter Bishop "WHERE'S THE FIRE?! I've always loved that expression, which is curious since my lab assistant was killed in a fire." - Walter Bishop

Posted: Wed May 04, 2011 1:50 pm
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JediConsular Padawan Joined: 29 Apr 2011 Posts: 53 Location: A galaxy far, far away... YodaBauer2442 wrote: SW and 24 are my two big fandoms! I have started watching all of the first episodes of the seasons, followed by the second and third etc. Just to compare how the seasons develop. I've been lucky, one of our local satelite channels have been rebroadcasting all the episodes starting from Season 1. _________________ "Many of the truths we cling to, depend greatly on our own point of view" ~ Obi-Wan Kenobi

Posted: Sat May 07, 2011 2:34 pm
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Mara Jade Skywalker Master Joined: 15 Feb 2008 Posts: 5359 Location: Beyond Shadows Welcome, Consular! Happy to have you and hope you have a great time at the Cantina. _________________ "It's not about the legacy you leave, it's about the life you live." ~Mara Jade Skywalker

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