Who should be on the Jedi Council? (Post Movies)

Knight Joined: 08 Apr 2011 Posts: 299

I've seen comments about I hope so and so joins the council or I think so and so will be Grandmaster in several threads. However rarely is that person the one who the thread is actually about. So I figured instead of taking threads more off topic then they are I'd make this.

Out of characters in Fate of the Jedi who are not currently on the Council there are only a handful I think should be on it.

Jania is near the top of the list. She's been invited to sit at several meetings already as a Knight and most of the younger Jedi look to her for leadership. She's shown that she's willing to do what it takes to get the job done regardless of any personal attachments. One thing I think may hold her back her tendency to act without council approval, however I don't think we've seen her flat out defy them. Plus there are times where she realizes things are above her pay grade, so the speak, and brings thing to the council. Only her marriage to Jag, if it happens would make be reconsider this. I don't think it's wise to have the wife of a head of state be on the Council. Only if she recuse herself in all discussions in regard to the Empire might that work.

Lowie is also on the list. In fact he's the one I'd say should be Grandmaster one day. He's never wavered at all from the light and he's shown great loyalty to both his friends and the order. Sadly the no wookie jedi rule will likely keep him out of consideration.

Tekli is that last of that generation of Jedi I'd say should be on it. Though she's not that strong in the force, she's has shown great promise. She knows when to stay silent and let others discuss things but also knows when to speak up and take charge. Granted that usually is in regards to her patients but since her role those far is as a healer, that makes sense. She should join when Cilghal steps down or dies.

Sadly there hasn't been much effort to develop the younger Jedi. Out of those introduced in Legacy of the Force, Yaqeel seems to show the most promise to be on the council on day but with so little know about it I'd not say that she should be. The Horn siblings, and yes I know they were introduced before Legacy, are possibles but since they've been crazy most of the time we've seen them are not developed enough to know if they have promise outside of their family name, and that's not enough for me.

Those that I don't want on the council follows:

Leia, I'm guessing most will disagree with me here but I don't think she should be on the council at all. In Legacy of the Force, she's only been a Jedi for about seven years or so and has spent most of that time ignoring the council. While I do think she has great wisdom and leadership skills, until she starts treating the council as something other then something to be acknowledge only when they can help her she shouldn't have a seat on it. Lucas showed in Phantom Menace that there have been Jedi Masters that are kept off the Council for such reasons and Leia should be one. Having someone who all but ignores them get a seat will set a horrible example for younger Jedi.

Zekk, though I love Zekk he doesn't seem like the leader type. Though I can see them Council getting his advice from time to time, I don't see him being one to get a seat.

Ben Skywalker, again will be unpopular but until he shows some leadership I say no. Luckily he's still young and should have plenty of time to grow into that leadership skill set that's require. Oh yeah, and get better wisdom then telling Jacen to target Wookie cities just so you can get closer for the kill.

All the others are either too underdeveloped or are in places, like Tenel Ka, where they can't logically be on the council. Though as I write this, I realized just how badly they've developed younger Jedi. The focus has been on the Council too much. Maybe they should start up the Young Jedi Knight books to develop some new ones.

Jaden Korr. He seems to be coming to prominence now that he's got his own book, and another on the way. Other than him, I can't really think of any other Jedi at the moment.

I disagree, though, with your reason against Leia. Kyp did a lot of that, yet he was chosen to be on the council because of it, not in spite of it.

And I disagree with Jaina being on there - she's a little too short-sighted for my liking, though if they have her mature a lot more in this series, I could see it happening.
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Master Joined: 09 Jun 2009 Posts: 1410

I agree with Life about Jaina. She's too immature yet to be a Council member. In fact, I think she's still too immature to make master. She reacts way too much without thinking things through.

Leia on the other hand should be named at least a master if not to the Council. She's almost a defacto member now. She is in on half the meetings and they're always seeking her advice.
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Knight Joined: 08 Apr 2011 Posts: 299

Kyp disagreed with Luke not the council for there wasn't the council. There was no ture hierarchy at the time for Kyp to ignore. That was one of the major plot point of New Jedi Order. That without structure the Jedi had no one to answer to. And even then he didn't completely disregard Luke, but largely disagreed. He might have been vocal about the differences, but when asked he still came to meetings.

Leia mean while goes out and does what she wants regardless of orders handed down. A good example would be when her and Han found out that Dalaa hired Mandos. When they reached the temple they found Jaden outside the chamber to keep others out. The smart thing to do would be to tell Jaden what happened and have him relay the message to the masters and wait to be called in. Instead they fell that they needed to be part of the discussion and tricked their way inside. That's just total disrespect not only towards the Masters but her fellow Jedi as well. It seems the only one she actually listens to is Luke. Oh and I don't mind Leia one day become a Jedi Master but don't think she should be on the Council.

And I don't think Jania's entirely short sighted. I'll admit that they'll writing her a tad immature at the moment but not short sighted. It seems to be that she often knows what the results might be but does things anyways because she thinks they are worth it. That might not be entirely wise but not short sighted. Meanwhile she has great leadership experience, tactic planning sense, and as I said before many younger Jedi follow her lead in things.

And you're right about Jaden Korr, I didn't think about him for I didn't even know he had a book. I'm only seen him in a handful of small scene in FOTJ and the game. And while the game was enjoyable, didn't really define the character too much outside of kicks ass.

Master Joined: 09 Jun 2009 Posts: 1410

Had Kyp not been asked on to the council, when it was formed, I'm sure he still would have disagreed and disregarded, in certain instances, what the council had to say, but even then I think it's the right call for him to be on the Council. That is, basically, the same for Leia. In your example I can't quite recall the reason for her wanting in, so I obviously can't give a proper answer - do you mind supplying me with the information? Did she have an insight, or special information, that she felt the Council needed to know?

About Jaina; you do concede, though, that she can be short-sighted at times. So my basic premise stands Wink

. And her going through with her plans even though she knows the outcome is more arrogance and stubbornness than short-sightedness, but tying in with that, she doesn't really think on things from all sides - as evidenced by her opening scene in the DN trilogy. She was giving evidence in a trial, and the prosecution was attacking her for her actions during and after the raid against pirate vessels.

Korr is the main character in Crosscurrent, and the upcoming Riptide.
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Master Joined: 09 Jun 2009 Posts: 1410

Life, Han and Leia did have information they felt the Council needed to hear immediately. I'm not going to look it up because I can't remember which book it was in, but I remember the incident Werehunter's referring to. Imo, I don't even see that as disrespect.
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In that case I don't see it as that, either. The Council, I am sure, merely gave those instructions to stop the non-emergency intrusions. They would most likely have understood in Leia's case.
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Padawan Joined: 23 Apr 2011 Posts: 65 Location: Mandalore

Future Masters:

Jaden Korr
Leia Organa Solo
Jaina Solo (but I agree with many of you not for a while, she still has lots to work on)
Lowbacca (future)
Ben Skywalker (future)
Vestari Khai (future)
Tahiri Veila (before Ben and Vestari, and after Jaina)

Future Grand Master:

Allana Solo (with a pack of nexu sitting around her golden throne on Hapes)
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Master Joined: 09 Jun 2009 Posts: 1410

Vestara Khai and Tahiri Veila? They're not even Jedi. Tahiri maybe will return, but I just think at this point it's a huge stretch to even suppose Vestara will be a Jedi. She's a kid; there's more than one direction for her to go in. Yeah, things look somewhat positive at the moment, but that's just one book. Even then, Vestara's motives were mixed so she's not doing this big turn to the light side.
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Padawan Joined: 23 Apr 2011 Posts: 65 Location: Mandalore

I know it's a stretch but it's just a feeling Cerrinea are you watching the Phantom Menace tonight?
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Knight Joined: 08 Apr 2011 Posts: 299

The only person I can think of right now that I would like to see on the Council is Leia. She has the skill and seniority for the position, as well as the wisdom. Plus I think she would bring a good balance to the Council because A.) She is a skilled politician, and B.) Of all the Jedi on the Council, she has the closest viewpoint of a non-Force sensitive. I think the Jedi often overlook the viewpoints of people who can't touch the Force. Leia has a pretty good feel for that since she waited a very long time for her Jedi training, and her political experience constantly had her considering the viewpoints of non-Force sensitive beings.
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Padawan Joined: 18 May 2011 Posts: 2

Leia would make a great leader of the Jedi, but she seems to have trouble being part of a council these days. It's understandable, after fighting against so many terrible governments for so long she's kind of anti-establishment. And besides, she has way too many attachments and responsibilities. It seemed like the LotF Correllian storyline was meant to show us that Han & Leia aren't perfectly neutral, they have many attachments and when there are conflicts they don't always side with the Jedi.
What's the "no Wookie Jedi rule"? 'Cause I think Lowie would be pretty great on the council.
It might screw up with the voting but I wouldn't mind some more Barabels.
I kinda just wish Dark Horse would lend Del Rey a hand and let them use certain Jedi Masters that are apparently just hanging out waiting for the Legacy comics.
This discussion mostly draws attention to the fact that we need some new Jedis, not young ones either. I keep hoping Troy Denning will pull some more Jedis out of his ass like he did with Saba and her crew.