Mara Jade Skywalker

Knight Joined: 08 Apr 2011 Posts: 396

But it isn't just Mara. Can you believe Leia did nothing at all about Jacen? Not even go to speak with him seriosly before her false concern in Fury?

Master Joined: 09 Jun 2009 Posts: 1417

Oh I agree. It was handled terribly. But then just about everything in LOTF was off. IMO, the only really good thing about LOTF was Ben and his growth. But that came at too high a sacrifice (no pun intended) for the reader and the EU.

If it was me, I'd make LOTF an infinity, and start over from DNT.
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Knight Joined: 08 Apr 2011 Posts: 396

I think it could still be fixed. A few short stories -like Leia trying to save Jacen, for example-, here and there, and things would make much more sense.

And if they have to make Infinities a serie, please, please, let's be Dark Nest. Big bad bugs and Tenel Ka being pregnant for a whole year... I have no words.

Master Joined: 09 Jun 2009 Posts: 1417

Oh the year long pregnancy. Razz

I understand why it was done, but seriously no woman in her right mind is going to voluntarily go through a year long pregnancy.

The flip side was Etain's Force-quick pregnancy in whichever RC book it was in. Just as bad.

Writers, stop messing with pregnancy! There's a reason it's 9 months.
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Knight Joined: 08 Apr 2011 Posts: 396

It's just because a big part of them are male, I suppose.

Anyway, if this would be possible, why isn't a common thing among the Jedi female? Just look how really bad was Mara's pregnancy, just trying to protect Ben. Particularly the last months. She could have saved a few worries and pain.

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Actually, I think they could make a good story out of turning Jacen around after DNT. Although he shouldn't have had to be turned around after NJO.
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At the end of The Unifying Force, Jacen went on his journey to gain greater understanding of the Force, and I expected him to come back as a knight-errant like Qui-Gon. Instead he came back as the exact opposite, a guy that went and studied with all these people to gain kewl powers that he uses to do as he pleases.

That never really stood well for me. When Ben flow-walked in Omen to see him, he was also mischaracterized as a bleeding heart to the Aing-Tii, talking about how he needs to heal the galaxy and crap. Even though at the end of TUF he said he doesn't have any sort of expectation of changing the galaxy or anything at all, except himself. Total one-eighty.
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Just realized this when I was re-reading The NJO novel Rebel Stand.

Mara going after Jacen did fit with her characterization in this book when it came to someone hurting Ben. The traitor Senator Viqi Shesh, who kidnapped Ben, almost caused Mara to do the same. The sole reason she didn't was because Luke kept turning her focus to something that was more important. But Mara really wanted to kill her, not capture but kill. Using that as a reference, it's feasible for her to have gone for the kill with Jacen. Especially since he did a lot more then just try to kidnap Ben.

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I didn't say Mara did go after and try to kill her, just that's what she wanted to do. Luke was there to keep her on the right path, so to speak. So I don't think it's too far a stretch to say her choosing to go after Jacen with the intent to kill was still in character, despite how long it had been since she was the Emperor's Hand.

And I'm not sure they had her turn back into the Emperor's Hand. I know people, myself included, say that, but I mainly mean it in a way that she used the tools and skills she learned as the Emperor's Hand, rather then she turned dark or anything like that. It's not like she completely gave up being a Jedi. But rather that she used her skills as a spy and assassin to track and try to kill him. Honestly, in some ways I'm glad they showed those skills. Even as a Jedi, many of the tricks she learned as the Emperor's Hand would be extremely useful in hunting down pirates, assassins, bounty hunters and the like. Much like Corran Horn should still use the skills he learned in CorSec.

Master Joined: 09 Jun 2009 Posts: 1417

Mara pretty clearly states in Abyss that it's the state of mind she was in when she tried to kill Jacen that's causing her remorse and suffering -- turning back into the Emperor's Hand.

Like I said, I have no problem with her going after Jacen to kill him. She had in effect offered him redemption before she made the decision to kill him. That's Jedi; turning into the Hand isn't, and that's my problem with yet another LOTF mischaracterization of a main character.

To be fair, Denning started the mis-characterizations in DNT and LOTF just continued it but made it more extreme imo.
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