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 PostPosted: Tue May 24, 2011 9:03 am Reply with quote  
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  Darth Skuldren
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Not sure if anyone is interested, but I wrote a detailed article that examines why eBook prices are so high. I thought it was a fairly interesting subject when I dug into it. I found out some neat things that I didn't know. It ties into Star Wars a little bit since Random House/Del Rey will be releasing a bunch of Star Wars eBooks at the end of June. This might help you form your expectations.

http://roqoodepot.com/2011/05/24/ebook-prices-propping-up-a-dying-system/
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Sorry, I haven't seen this until now -my computer was dead when you wrote it.

There is something I'd like to comment. I don't think there should be a big difference in price between books and ebooks. Around $1 or 2. That's really paper and ink's price. The job behind an ebook it's exactly the same behind any other book. I know it because I make my translations in ebooks, as similar to originals books in English as I can. Sometimes, it takes me days to do it, even with a profesional program as an Adobe ID.


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Personally I think eBooks should be cheaper because there is no printing/shipping costs. Authors write the books in digital text files already, so transferring them over and adjusting the appearance isn't something that should affect the per unit price. Even with translations, I don't think that should affect the per unit price. It just doesn't seem justifiable to the consumer.

That said, I don't think eBooks should be priced at 99 cents. They're still stories and a good story should be able to warrant a acceptable price. I know a lot of authors doing self-publishing seem to agree that $5 (USD) is the magic mark for a full length novel.
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Darth Skuldren wrote:
Personally I think eBooks should be cheaper because there is no printing/shipping costs. Authors write the books in digital text files already, so transferring them over and adjusting the appearance isn't something that should affect the per unit price. Even with translations, I don't think that should affect the per unit price. It just doesn't seem justifiable to the consumer.


There has to be someone who makes the adjustement -a salary to be paid- and someone in the other side of the screen -another salary. And it's better if we don't talk about translation. I'm not a professional and I do it for fun -well, you know what I mean-, but we are talking about a month of work. In the best cases, this is.

In fact, this is one of the reason we don't have series in my language anymore. You know, we had to wait around 7-8 years to read the end of NJO (some people haven't recieved some of their copies yet) and there isn't any plan about LotF or FotJ, but we already have Millennium Falcon.

So, yes, they should be cheaper, but not more than $1 or 2. In my case, no more than €1 or 2.


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Darth Skuldren wrote:
Personally I think eBooks should be cheaper because there is no printing/shipping costs. Authors write the books in digital text files already, so transferring them over and adjusting the appearance isn't something that should affect the per unit price. Even with translations, I don't think that should affect the per unit price. It just doesn't seem justifiable to the consumer.

That said, I don't think eBooks should be priced at 99 cents. They're still stories and a good story should be able to warrant a acceptable price. I know a lot of authors doing self-publishing seem to agree that $5 (USD) is the magic mark for a full length novel.


We actually disscussed this on the Star Wars Report, your article even Skuldren. I loved how you broke it down. Make me sick that the publishers seem to only care about Hardcover sales. I honestly think if they released the book in all formats for a year (that's a year of every book being released in all formats all at once) that we'd see that Hardcovers don't make up the majority of sales. I bet what you have is a lot of fans like myself who WILL NOT wait the year to get our paper back and thus buy it on kindle or Hardcover first.

If it's going to be a dead system kill it- don't band-aid it till we're getting milked of our money. (which is what it feels like the end goal will be)
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Well Border's officially died yesterday. All of their stores will be closing up by September. Question now is how many more will follow, and what will the survivors due to stay alive?

And I agree, IR2. I'm one of those people who buy the hardcover because I don't have the patience to wait for the paperback. I still can't believe they think it's okay to make eBooks the same price as hardcovers until the paperback releases. Business strategies like that make me think a lot less of the publishing companies.
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Darth Skuldren wrote:

And I agree, IR2. I'm one of those people who buy the hardcover because I don't have the patience to wait for the paperback. I still can't believe they think it's okay to make eBooks the same price as hardcovers until the paperback releases. Business strategies like that make me think a lot less of the publishing companies.


Yep. Time to reset some things. Value has no value with the levels of corporate greed out there Laughing

But no doubt in my mind that if left as it was that Hardcovers were the new minority, and to save their breadwinner they'll do what ever necessary all while making more money while doing it. Corporate America come soon to the U.K. through Star Wars, one book, comic, and tv episode at a time. hehehe

Next we'll get a shortage of books cause someone has to practice Lean Manufacturing and some "issue" will cause the supply to be reduced driving the demand, thus the price of the books.
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Speaking of ebook sales and hardcovers, American Association of Publishers (AAP) released its monthly sales report:

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Category 2011 YTD 2010 YTD Percent Change
Adult Paperback $473.1 Million $576.4M -17.9%
E-Books $389.7M $149.8M +160.1%
Adult Hardcover $386.2M $504.1M -23.4%
Religious Books $252.5M $227.8M +10.8%
Children's/YA Hardcover $198.1M $211.4M -6.3%
Adult Mass Market $185.1M $264.8M -30.1%
Children's/YA Paperback $163.5M $192.5M -15.1%
Downloaded Audiobooks $36.5M $31.2M +17.0%


In short, ebooks/digital going up, print going down.

Scholastic--the childrens' book company--also released their 2011 fiscal year results and 2012 forecast:

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In addition to reporting 2011 results, the company also released its 2012 forecast. Scholastic CEO Richard Robinson said that initiatives like READ 180 and an expansion of the school customer base were expected to “drive strong growth in the higher margin education segment,” and that the company would also move forward with e-book and e-commerce strategies, including the “expanded roll-out” of a children’s e-reading app and e-bookstore.


With now Dark Horse going digital too, do you think print books are headed for extinction? How do you think we'll read in the future?
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My understanding of ebook readers is still tenuous at best, but isn't there still a slight problem with cross-format ebooks? As in, one ebook you buy at one digital store for one ebook reader may not be readable on another ebook reader. If that's still the case, then I think there'll still be a prevalence of physical books over ebooks. But when that problem is fixed I think the market would take off enough to threaten the production of physical books.

One thing that did interest me, though, was the increase in audio book sales.
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