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  Dog-Poop_Walker
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I think one of the biggest problems with continuity is that in theory PT/TCW/OT are supposed to be canon and mutually exclusive from the EU, with all EU subordinate and therefor responsible for upholding continuity to canon. But it doesn't happen that way because Lucas likes to pick and choose from the EU for canon and thereby fudges up the continuity between the two.

This is perhaps most glaring with Boba Fett.

I'm not totally familiar with his real world history but I think that he was supposed to be in ANH and was deleted. What created his fan appeal is that he appeared in the Star Wars Holiday special and then based on these two things they made him the super-secret mail-away toy for the Star Wars line. Everyone was interested in who the heck this guy is that wasn't even in the movie.

Following the movies he's just this guy that has two lines, stands around for five minutes in ROTJ and then dies in the Sarlacc Pitt. In Lucas World he was supposed to die and shouldn't have come back. He was brought back and put into the EU because he was the fan favorite.

So when it came time to do the prequels why would Lucas write in the back story and make it a major plot point of a character that was never important in the OT? Because he was the fan favorite. He based his PT on the EU Fett, but then didn't follow his back story as it was told in the EU, and the continuity is all screwed up.

He should have either resolved the EU stories of Fett and made them canon with the PT, or not include the character and keep him in his insignificant place in the OT.


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To clarify, the films/TCW and the EU were never supposed to be mutually exclusive, and one isn't necessarily subordinate to the other. It's just that, in cases where there are obvious differences, and where retcons are not possible, the films are correct.

There are surprisingly few areas where the films or The Clone Wars completely destroyed a piece of EU that retcons could not manage, and the history of Boba Fett is among them. The short stories and the comic appearances fit nicely in with the prequels, and that's all because of retcons.

I like the fact that it's all one continuity, and it doesn't bother me at all that GL and LFL borrow from the EU to make The Clone Wars (indeed, one of my favourite comic arcs was The Clone Wars: Slaves of the Republic, and the cartoon adaptation is one of my favourite episode arcs too).
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I guess I was wrong about Star Wars fans being the biggest sticklers with regard to continuity?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yXVmleTSB5k

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Not exactly a lack of continuity but rather a question of the continuity between OT films. Specifically the two colors of blood stripes Han wears in the OT. Now I get that there are two classes of blood stripes but why does Han only wear the first class of blood stripes in ANH?

Obviously this can be explained by choices in costume changes (although I haven't read why they made the costume change). But is there an in universe explanation for why Han didn't wear the red blood stripes more often since they were the higher level award?
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Salaris Vorn wrote:
Not exactly a lack of continuity but rather a question of the continuity between OT films. Specifically the two colors of blood stripes Han wears in the OT. Now I get that there are two classes of blood stripes but why does Han only wear the first class of blood stripes in ANH?

Obviously this can be explained by choices in costume changes (although I haven't read why they made the costume change). But is there an in universe explanation for why Han didn't wear the red blood stripes more often since they were the higher level award?


I don't remember the source, but its becasue the first class (red) stripes were VERY uncommon to earn and thus made a person much more easily identified based on those alone. The second class (yellow striped) are more common awards and thus do not include as lmited a group making them less helpful in identification.

It was his way of being "low key"


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My favorite season of Blackadder!
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^ Mine too. By far! Wink
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I liked Blackadder the Second. Hugh Laurie and Stephen Fry were amazing in that one. "I will have my rewengey!" "No, you will die and be buried" *thud* Laughing

Blackadder the Fourth had a very, very moving ending though.
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DannikJerriko wrote:
I liked Blackadder the Second. Hugh Laurie and Stephen Fry were amazing in that one. "I will have my rewengey!" "No, you will die and be buried" *thud* Laughing

Blackadder the Fourth had a very, very moving ending though.


Totally of topic, of course, but Black Adder the Second is my favorite too Dannik. Very Happy
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This explains everything.



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I'm reading Emissaries to Malastare and there is a Hutt with half a head. If a Hutt can survive that, why didn't Ziro survive a freaking blaster to the chest?
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DannikJerriko wrote:
I'm reading Emissaries to Malastare and there is a Hutt with half a head. If a Hutt can survive that, why didn't Ziro survive a freaking blaster to the chest?


Back in the day when the Glove of Darth Vader stuff was coming out Jabba's father Zorba took several blaster bolts while in Bespin's Cloud City but his thick Hutt skin kept them from damaging him. TCW doesn't care about canon, just appeal.
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Wasn't there a Hutt in the Han Solo Trilogy that went out in a blaze of glory on Ylesia?
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