Sympathy for the Empire

You make a good case JSF.

I guess what it comes down to is that we are given a pretty clear good guys versus bad guys viewpoint in the OT and PT, but in the EU they've developed a more complex and realistic reality.

That, and the fact that the Empire did change over time.
Their politics changed as the Empire learned from past mistakes and adopted to the realities of the universe around them.
In the end what was left was truly just another government and not the extension of the Sith Philosophy it started out with.
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Knight Joined: 07 Feb 2012 Posts: 358 Location: USA

As for holding Jedi accountable they do that, just not that they believe punishment is the best and sole means of doing so. A Jedi that vows to learn from their mistakes and to work to correct them and not make them again is generally sufficient accountability for them. DPW

That's just it. In the NR the Jedi are treated as a special class of beings that are above the laws of normal citizens. They did not become accountable for their actions until Daala came to power. Once she came to power they were brought back down to the level of non-Force users and made to adhere to the same rules and regulations.

I'm glad to see that they are treated just as every other citizen in the GA is.
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Daala's real agenda was about destroying the Jedi Order, and her rhetoric was a blind. While I agree that the Jedi should not be above the law, they are not average citizens. They've consistently done far more to preserve the GA than the average citizen.

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The only thing seperating Jedi from the average citizens is the Force. It does not give them carte-blanche to do and act in however manner that they want. Even though Daala wants to destroy the JO, I think many regular citizens would be ok with it. The Jedi have become arrogant. They even defy the government laws. These are the same laws that they would be all for enforcing on non-Jedi.
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And I don't think Daala citing a few examples illustrates that the entire Jedi Order are all running around like a bunch of loose cannons. She massively overstates the issue to nail Luke.

As far as the regular citizens of the GA go: they've already seen what happens when the entire Jedi Order is purged. They got Palpatine.

Anyway, I'd stack the Moffs up against the Jedi any day when it comes to arrogance and running roughshod over the law.
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The Jedi serve the Republic, but they aren't it's servants. You can disagree that the will of the Force gives them a knowledge and a responsibility above the average person, as Daala does, but from a story perspective that is what we are led to believe is true.

Because the Jedi were bound to the corrupt whims of the government they were destroyed. Because Luke was responsible for both the revival of the Jedi and the Republic, the Jedi were once again put into the same conflict.

In the PT and NJO the Jedi council tried to distance themselves from being directly involved in decision making for the Republic. In contrast, in Fel's Empire you have the Imperial Knights, Force user's who combine Imperial leadership with an offshoot of Jedi teachings. I wonder if this would be going along with the intentions of the original Jedi or an aberration.

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I thought legacy and Legacy: War did a good job of examining that exact dilemma, Ree'dius.
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Good idea jumping ship at NJO and beyond. I'd rather see novels covering more of the old republic than Del Ray continuing with the NJO/GA Era.
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OT, but good point. It bugs me that stories set during the KOTOR games are referred to as "The Old Republic" since it covers a specific and rather short period, by Universe time line.

Dawn of the Jedi (25,000 BBY), Tales Of The Jedi (4,000 BBY), and the Prequels all take place during the Old Republic and have nothing to do with KOTOR.

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