Jacen Solo/Darth Caedus

Sadly true. Arrogance from beyond the grave. Quite a feat.
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Makes sense though, until he lets go of his arrogance, he can't find peace in the afterlife.
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Meh. You say vision, I say retcon.

Jacen as Cadeus can be viewed as a result of his actions and thinking in between NJO and Dark Nest, or it can be viewed with the explanation given in FOTJ.

I prefer the grey morality- one man's hero is another man's terrorist, what does it really mean to serve the greater good?- of the NJO/DN Jacen, instead of the simplistic moralizing of "he actually was serving the greater good and was good, he just appeared bad because you didn't know why he was doing what he was doing."

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In LOTF just prior to turning Sith Jacen has a vision of a huge Galactic war with billions of people dying. It's given ambiguously that maybe Lumiya sent him this vision, not the Force, but nonetheless this is the major impetus that pushes him toward becoming a Sith because he feels like only himself, as Galactic ruler, can stop it. Throughout the series he wrestles with whether he will have to sacrifice Alanna for the good of the Galaxy until he finally kidnaps her himself and holds her hostage against the GA and Tenel Ka Djo to keep them from overthrowing him.

In Invincible they already start retconning it by implying that it was Jacen's destiny to become a Sith and to die to stop the war.

See where I'm going with this? The idea that he was trying to protect Alanna directly is not there until Fate Of The Jedi and is counter to what is shown in LOTF.

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I just finished read New Jedi Order: Dark Tide I (I'm finally getting around to reading the whole New Jedi Order series), and man is Jacen Solo annoying. I remember liking him in Young Jedi Knights, but so far in DT1 he's an annoying know it all, questioning what it means to be a jedi and being a complete ass about it. Seriously, the rest of the book was enjoyable, but I started dreading the Jacen sections. All he does is think (and say, at times) things like "Luke doesn't know enough to teach jedi" or "Jedi should just become hermits to learn about the force" or "Fighting isn't right" and even more stupid stuff.

I wouldn't care as much if it was just him thinking about what he should do, but he seems to think that what he believes should apply to all jedi. I don't think he'll ruin the NJO books (especially since I'm pretty sure he's not in several of them), but he is annoying. I'd say I wish he died in NJO, but I actually like Allana in FotJ, so I guess I can just be glad he died in LotF. Maybe he'll mellow out as the NJO continues (or maybe other authors won't focus on these parts of his personality) but as of right now he's become one of the most annoying characters I've read about in a SW book.

I recently read Black Fleet Crisis, and a lot of the things you bring up ('All he does is think (and say, at times) things like "Luke doesn't know enough to teach jedi" or "Jedi should just become hermits to learn about the force" or "Fighting isn't right"') was present in that book, too, with Luke wishing to become a hermit, and *name removed as it's too offensive to my memory* bringing up the other two points.
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I'd reread LOTF, but I don't think I can stand to.

And Jacen was also having the Dark Man on the Throne visions so there's that, which fits in FOTJ.
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