Homosexuality

Thanks for the info, Salaris and Cerrinea. Like I said, the Industrial Revolution isn't my favourite era, so I didn't know that about slavery increasing during it. I guess this means that my argument about machinery is now pretty much void as far as I can see (though I think the war prisoner one still stands).
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v3S24ofEQj4&feature=youtu.be
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^ I have a gut feeling that that is a hoax.
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I doubt it's a hoax. I had to sit through these kinds of films a lot when I was in school.
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For comparison, Pixar made a commercial for Lots-O'-Huggin' Bear for their viral campaign for Toy Story 3 and it was very skillfully made. It didn't look like a parody of the 80s (e.g. hair/clothing styles looked like they were from the 80s, but it wasn't exaggerated), but a legit 1980s commercial. If I didn't know it was a hoax, I would have believed it.

Here's a link:

http://gigaom.com/video/toy-story-3-introduces-lots-o-huggin-bear-with-viral-ad/

I don't know the video Dannick linked just screams 21st century parody to me. Granted, I didn't live in either the 80s or the 50s so I might not be a good judge.
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Sorry for the double post.

Just out of curiosity, for those who consider same sex realtionships moral, what do you think of bestiality? It's currently illegal in Canada. I suspect that might change.
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Sorry for the duble post.

Question for Reep

Do you see us who are pro same sex realtionships, the same as a bunch of sheep shaggers?

Dude, it's just the way it was worded. If I view both homosexual intercourse and bestiality as sins, then yes I believe those who practice both are sinners. But what else is new? Christianity teaches pride as the blackest of all sins, and that's my personal thorn.

On a realted note, I stumbled upon this video:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ezQjNJUSraY

It's a gay Christian arguing for same sex relationships and it is by far the best argument I have ever heard. It's an hour long, but if you're interested in this sort of thing, I'd recommend it.
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Reep, let me explain. You've unwittingly hit upon a very sore subject. One common argument people use against allowing same-sex marriage is the slippery slope fallacy. That of, 'if we allow same-sex marriage, then what's next? People marrying horses? Paedophilia?' The things is, that's very offensive to gay people, because homosexuality is consensual between two adults (or at least, should be; just as heterosexuality should be consensual between two adults, but there are bad eggs in every batch out there) and occurs between two beings of the same level of sentience - as was pointed out above. Bestiality is something that happens without consent. And paedophilia, well, I'm sure I don't need to elaborate on the wrongness of paedophilia.

So comparing the two, homosexuality and bestiality (consensual sex between men and animal rape), is inaccurate and at least a little offensive. You probably didn't mean to do that, and probably merely meant it in the way that OMB describes, but to be honest more elaboration in the original post was needed to convey that sense in your question, and not the slightly offensive comparison that was hinted at by the wording.

Now, to answer your question: I don't think bestiality is moral or correct, for the reasons of consent above.

Thanks for the video. I'd really like to hear it, I just need to find a spare hour to listen. I may bug you for a brief synopsis on its points of argument later Razz

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Consent is a fair point. I hadn't thought of that, but that was why I asked. Trouble is, when you're talking about a hot topic like this, it's very hard to find a comparison that works for everyone.

Anyway, sorry if I offended anyone.
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