Colorado Theater Shooting

I'm going to be seeing TDKR soon and I'm not sure what it's going to be like. I'm pretty good at getting absorbed in a story, so I don't think it will be on my mind, but who knows?

Is there any word on why he picked this movie?
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I didn't have time to elaborate my thoughts on this earlier;

It's very hard to discuss this kind of thing, for governments and media, because publicity is all these people (the gunmen) want. So talking about them could very well lead to more like them, if people realise how and what to do.

But at the same time, it's a massive political issue, and the public does need to know about the causes and the consequences of such happenings. If a presidential candidate chooses a lockdown on gun crime as their running point, the people need to know about this kind of thing. Even if it's warning people what they should be noticing in people's behaviour etc or if there's going to be a vote surrounding it, people need to know the facts.

Guns need to stop being so openly available.

My thoughts genuinely go out to all close to those harmed by the event.
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It was odd seeing TDKR on Saturday. Like Skuldren said, you suddenly feel exposed and you're actually thinking about things like "can I get to the ground in time?" It's wide open and I can't imagine how terrifying that must have been. And maybe I was the only one doing this, but whenever someone would walk around at the front of the theater (either to find a seat or cross to the other side), I couldn't help watching them the whole time. The movie was good enough to make me forget, especially near the end, but the whole experience was very different and slightly unnerving at the start.

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I saw TDKR less than 24 hours after the shooting, and never thought about a shooting happening at my theater. It was a tragic, fluke event. Why even worry about something like it happening? It either will, or it won't.

Worrying about going to the movie theater and encountering a shooter is as pointless as worrying about flying on a plane and having it taken over by terrorists or attending a public school and having a crazy student (or two) shooting up the staff and students.

http://themonkeycage.org/blog/2012/07/21/the-declining-culture-of-guns-and-violence-in-the-united-states/
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Interesting article, Life. I for one am a pro-gun person. I believe and support the 2nd amendment. Shootings like this provoke a lot of movement by the anti-gun groups. It's a knee jerk reaction. Political motivations aside, I understand the desire to solve these shooting sprees by either making guns harder to acquire or by getting rid of them altogether.

However, there's a couple things to consider. In this specific case we have an individual who was very intelligent. He didn't just use guns to attack people. he used tear gas (possibly home made? I haven't hear anyone mention where he got the tear gas from), and rigged his apartment with explosives. If this guy couldn't have gotten a hold of some guns, we must ask ourselves how likely it would have been that he would have simply used a bomb instead to inflict damage?

Another aspect is one people on the left will not want to hear. It's a very hard right approach, but there's some truth to it. If you were a gunmen and were going to attack a theater, would you attack the theater filled with unarmed people or the one full of armed people? I've heard people say "an armed society is a polite society." I know, some people are very scared of the thought of everyone having a gun. But that doesn't change that fact that there's some truth to the statements.

As viable a solution as anti-gun laws might be, pro-gun gun laws are just as viable. There isn't just one solution, and I think people should consider that.

Of course I'm also a big believer in moderation. Taking the extreme solution in either direction would be the wrong choice.
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If everyone was carrying guns, how are you supposed to know, in a dark theatre, whether the person who stands up next to you is partners with the bad guy, or shooting at the bad guy... Just a thought
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You shall learn that history is an intricate weaving of many events. No one thing can be understood without the proper context.

The best techniques are passed on by the survivors.

When I saw TDKR this guy from the theatre staff walked down the aisles during the trailers, shining a flashlight into the seats.
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Nice points, Salaris. I hadn't considered those.

I would argue though that most gunmen aren't so much suicidal as they are looking for victims to prey upon. You don't hear of gunmen storming police headquarters cause they're looking to die. Instead they target large groups of civilians. The suicidal ones die when the cops arrive. I'm not sure what the psychology there is. Perhaps some urge to cause a lot of pain, and then the urge to just end it all.

But the comments on the theater being dark and multiple people having guns leading to great confusion, that is definitely spot on.
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