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My problem isn't them making Leia look old, it's that her hairstyle makes her look like she is covering up a couple of horns or something on the top of her head.
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It's decent enough, but there seems to be no points of interest on the cover beyond 'it's Han, Luke and Leia together! And they look older!' which makes me think they're doing it to interest new customers. Nothing wrong with that, as such, it just doesn't interest me.
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Agreed, I was thinking the same. There's nothing to capture my attention. It's kind of boring, in all honesty. But it probably will be effective in drawing in those who aren't already readers of the EU. Or even the casual reader. So I can see the reasoning.
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While I see where you guys are coming from, I can honestly say that no covers since the NJO have really been all that interesting though.

The TOR ones aren't bad, but LOTF, FOTJ, DN, Scourge, CC/RT, Choices, etc. are all basically "here's a picture of one (occasinally two) character(s) who may or may not be central to the story contained within". Or in the case of X-wing, two fighters from a scene that took all of 3 pages.

There's very little on any of them that's really of interest. I wish they'd go back to the old cover styles of Bantum, or even better, something like the Japanese NJO covers. But I don't think that's likely to happen anytime soon.


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I know what you mean. The covers aren't very exciting anymore. Bantam covers had so much more life! And the Japanese covers...if only. Sad

There are some beautiful covers. Deceived was gorgeous, in my opinion. There were also a couple others I have to remember. And the NJO covers were generally amazing. Lately, not so much.

Ah, well. We just love to complain. Not that it's entirely undeserved, though.
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I sorta like LOTF and FOTJ covers for showing updated pictures of some characters. Yes, Luke and Jacen were overexposed, but we got new pictures of Jag, Kenth Hamner, Tahiri, Tenel Ka, and Ben.
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Covers are always starting to make me wonder who will die though. Jacen on Invincible, Mara on Sacrifice, Kenth on Vortex, i'll admit its not a regular thing but all it does is make me tense now. Mara's right, the NJO covers were the best Del Rey has had to offer so far.
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GrandMaster wrote:
I sorta like LOTF and FOTJ covers for showing updated pictures of some characters. Yes, Luke and Jacen were overexposed, but we got new pictures of Jag, Kenth Hamner, Tahiri, Tenel Ka, and Ben.


I do like that we're getting updated pictures of some of the characters. But if we went back to the old style of covers, we'd get updated pictures of several characters.

One thing that really annoys me about the FOTJ covers, is that we got nice pictures on the back of the hardcovers that showed updated versions of less major characters, but these aren't even attempted to be reprinted on the paperbacks. Only time I've ever seen something like that happen. Sure, the images often have text over them, but they're usually at least THERE.

The other thing that bugs me is that Bantum was really good at keeping the spines of a series looking alike throughout the run. In every series that Del Rey has done, there's always some minor change half-way through or on the last book or something that's really annoying, and makes certain books stick out as out of place.

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Covers are always starting to make me wonder who will die though. Jacen on Invincible, Mara on Sacrifice, Kenth on Vortex, i'll admit its not a regular thing but all it does is make me tense now. Mara's right, the NJO covers were the best Del Rey has had to offer so far.


A pattern I hadn't noticed (since both Jacen and Jaina were on Invincible, and I'd forgotten about Kenth). But that's an interesting detail.


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The characters look kind of odd. When I saw the original art, I didn't say anything because I thought it was a very early design just to build up hype, but the final cover is almost identical.

I liked the cover art from LotF the best.
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Wait wait wait wait. Bantam cover love? Where's the barfing smiley when you need it.



I think Star Wars has consistently had good and bad covers throughout it's history. The Thrawn covers really aren't that good. The old X-Wing covers, some of them looked nice. Some of the Japanese covers for the X-wing covers were awful. Some of the NJO covers were awful. With FOTJ, some were better than others.

Some of the best looking covers, in my opinion, would be Revan, Luke Skywalker and the Shadows of Mindor, and Deceived. The artwork on those are pretty gorgeous.
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The only Bantam love I'll give is for books like the Black Fleet series, Planet of Twilight, Courtship, New Rebellion, etc. cause the covers had the OT/epic feel to them. I miss that good old fashioned artwork with the characters and ships.


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Darth Skuldren wrote:
Wait wait wait wait. Bantam cover love? Where's the barfing smiley when you need it.



I think Star Wars has consistently had good and bad covers throughout it's history. The Thrawn covers really aren't that good. The old X-Wing covers, some of them looked nice. Some of the Japanese covers for the X-wing covers were awful. Some of the NJO covers were awful. With FOTJ, some were better than others.

Some of the best looking covers, in my opinion, would be Revan, Luke Skywalker and the Shadows of Mindor, and Deceived. The artwork on those are pretty gorgeous.


I'm not saying there weren't some bad Bantum covers as well, but there was at least variety, and far more to them rather than one single person/place/thing.


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Agreed. I thought the FOTJ covers were completely uninspired. The LOTF and others were ok, I guess.


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Crucible will be beyond awesome. After all these years of huge-cast, multi-family Star Wars series, I wanted to focus back on our three original heroes for one more exciting adventure (at least one more!) before theyíre so old that the action wonít sustain suspension of disbelief. This seemed like the right time to do it. I havenít read a word of it yet, because Troy is still writing it, but I canít wait to read it. Iím looking forward to spending some serious time with Luke, Han, and Leia Ė the older, wiser ones, who have so much experience to bring to bear to an epic quest. Remember the movie Space Cowboys, where NASA had a problem that only a few of the old-time, retired (if memory serves) astronauts could handle? I loved that movie. Thatís what comes to mind when I think of Crucible, except that Crucible will have a lot more action and derring-do!


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I still hope they will go to Mortis and replace the Ones. That way we get to retire the characters without killing them. I mean, I don't mind killing them, I just don't think Lucas will ever allow it. And it has become ridiculous.


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