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  Caedus_16
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Amazon used page bro, you can get em for like 3 bucks overall, and that includes shipping. I picked up most of the first five there and I think I paid a total of like 12 bucks.
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There's always eBay too. Nearly half of my SW book collection are secondhand, as are quite a lot of the rest of my books (and games, DVDs, CDs etc.)

I got lucky earlier this year. A care assistant I had at the time also did voluntary work for a local charity, collecting donated goods. He knew I like SW and showed up with a box of books that someone had given him. There was virtually all of the NJO, plus a couple of other SW paperbacks, all in nearly new condition. As I'd been giving Neil stuff I didn't want as donations, he let me take any of the books I wanted. I picked up about three titles I didn't have, plus duplicate copies of ones I had that were getting worn (as all my NJO books were secondhand anyway). I also swapped a Jedi Academy book I owned for a new one that was the same edition as the other two I had. The one I got rid of was a US import that didn't match the UK editions of the other two titles.


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I don't have a credit card. I'll see if I can borrow someone else's. Wink
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Reepicheep wrote:
I don't have a credit card. I'll see if I can borrow someone else's. Wink
get a pre paid visa Wink
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Reepicheep wrote:
Caedus_16 wrote:
I've got a library, I'll still read the books, and I've got a pull list so I'll still read the comics. I'm completely done with any tv shows though, and I won't buy anything until the quality picks back up. It just hasn't been worth it lately, and the only way to really tell them so is to stop handing over our cash. Star Wars has dipped in quality before, and when sales declined they made changes. It can work again.

Indeed. If enough fans "boycott" it might just get their attention.



IDK peeps.... Sure it looks like it works, but did it? Lost Tribe is a return to the premium covers that they decided to do away with because people didn't get them, Series that followed NJO IMO got worse instead of better planned.

Meanwhile comic series like Spiral have been limited to one arc before they had even released.

While I'm sure money factors into some of this- I am begining to think the powers behind it all don't care. Which makes sense- you don't need to care if you can still grab new people off the street and get them interested.

I think of it in a corporate sense- when you work for a corporation for a long time (10+ years) you become the "hardliner" employee- those less willing to try some new "gimmick" system just to make some CEO money when you know at least 3 or more reasons why it didn't work before and won't work this time either. But those in power would rather replace you with someone new off the street- cause they don't know any better. They are just so happy to have the job they will do what ever is asked even if it's not the best thing for the company or the consumer.

A lot of the PR we get is simply to quell the masses.

IMO all pulling your money off the shelf (in-mass) does is makes them think SW isn't as successful anymore. Next thing we'll see is less printed material in general. To me this is right up there with a "No Star Wars is better than occasionally messed up Star Wars" Which to me is a lose lose.

I can't think of ONE work that I've loved 100% of the story in the first place. Being a fan of the EU I've learned we take the good with the bad.

And pulling our money won't make GL stop playing with continuity- nor will it show them where the mistake is.

This is the same old song and dance- been going on for 10+ years to varying degrees- and I WILL TELL YOU THIS- IN ALL THAT TIME I'VE SEEN MANY Fan-Friends GO... AND FEW EVER RETURN- but SW is as SW does and their leaving didn't change Sithspit.


That's not to say I don't feel your pain 100%. But the old saying "don't give them your money" - hey that only works to make US feel better- it won't do SW or more importantly the SWEU any good. GL will do as he always has.

Maybe we can hold out till he passes away and there will be NO WAY he can tinker more.... but then we're just waiting for someone to die and take some pleasure in it... and I don't think that's good either.

I think I get irked because when you try to explain to someone the way the EU works alongside the Saga (films/TCW) it's so dang confusing. And my anger is that WE FANS DID NOT MAKE IT THIS WAY..... GL DID.
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Taral-DLOS wrote:
Hey guys I wanted to touch on something continuity themed that I found recently.

I'm slowly working my way through the Essential Guide to Warfare, and I'm on the chapter about the Rise of the Empire (post-Clone Wars). There is a throwaway line that right near the end of the Clone Wars, the planetary militias were amalgamated into the Grand Army of the Republic and the Republic Navy. This event is depicted in Republic 79-81: The Dreadnaughts of Rendili.

The comic Obsession follows immediately from this Republic arc.

As a result, it looks like Obsession is still in the continuity, just maybe a bit later than originally thought (and after the events of the TCW season 4 finale.


You see THIS is why I STILL love SW. I don't know what the hell Taral is talking about. (well I know bits and somethings. Smile )

I have to go read poodoo just to get my timeline in check.
And in this poodoo, sometimes a crystal that any lightsaber would exept is discovered.

But than again I'm no "walking holocron" to begin with.

illogicalRogue2 wrote:


This is the same old song and dance- been going on for 10+ years to varying degrees- and I WILL TELL YOU THIS- IN ALL THAT TIME I'VE SEEN MANY Fan-Friends GO... AND FEW EVER RETURN- but SW is as SW does and their leaving didn't change Sithspit.


That's not to say I don't feel your pain 100%. But the old saying "don't give them your money" - hey that only works to make US feel better- it won't do SW or more importantly the SWEU any good. GL will do as he always has.

Maybe we can hold out till he passes away and there will be NO WAY he can tinker more.... but then we're just waiting for someone to die and take some pleasure in it... and I don't think that's good either.

I think I get irked because when you try to explain to someone the way the EU works alongside the Saga (films/TCW) it's so dang confusing. And my anger is that WE FANS DID NOT MAKE IT THIS WAY..... GL DID.



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Hogy wrote:
And in this poodoo, sometimes a crystal that any lightsaber would exept is discovered.


So poetic. I'm still pondering the possible interpretations.
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Mara Jade Skywalker wrote:
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And in this poodoo, sometimes a crystal that any lightsaber would exept is discovered.


So poetic. I'm still pondering the possible interpretations.


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Would there still be a possibility to end the Republic Commando series if continuity was rigid?
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I thought I heard that there was a plan to wrap it up in the news that came out of C6.


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Mad Wook wrote:
I thought I heard that there was a plan to wrap it up in the news that came out of C6.


That's my point. Could this even happen with a rigid continuity? With the Clone Wars, there will probably be retcons. If continuity was a straight line and not squiggly, then we'd have to honor what came before. Even if you loathe the current system, there are benefits.
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I'm sure when TCW is wrapped up, there will be a conscious effort to straighten up continuity and a second 501st book would be after the war anyway. And with characters who haven't been affected by the show, the Republic Commando books shouldn't be affected by any continuity changes unless they bump the placement of AOTC or ROTS.


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Pablo Hidalgo wrote:
"You just have to agree that there's a certain amount of elasticity there," he said. "We maintain the flexibility of having the artistic license to say, 'yeah, but this is a really good story idea, so let's not tie the author's hands or the artist's hands on what he wants to do here, so let's let him explore the story, and we can figure it out retroactively.' "

He said they also consider whether every story has the same level of canonicity; whether a story can be changed to avoid breaking with continuity; and whether they can simply "take out the elements that would really stomp on another tale."

Hahahaha! Confirmation at last!

Leland has hinted at this in the past. That once a product hits his desk, he will fix what he can without undermining the work, then send it off for publication while making a note in the Holocron of any remaining discrepancies. In other words, SW continuity is not maintained by Lucas Licensing, it is maintained after the fact by later content creators, though retcons.

Discrepancies are not rare, to be fixed with a retcon when they occur. They are the status quo, with the retcon as the only true source of continuity. Presumably this is how it is and has always been. Pablo just confirmed it. We have been expecting the moon, when really it was but an illusion cast on a moon fragment.

The only good thing about this is that it promises perfect continuity sooner or later. Cause sooner or later everything will be catched and retconned. Of course, new sources introduce new errors, but y'know hypothetically, perfect continuity is possible.
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Mad Wook wrote:
I'm still of the opinion that there would be no PT without the success of the EU, primarily the Thrawn Trilogy and Dark Empire.

That depends. According to The Secret History of Star Wars, it was undoubtedly the cash earned from the tie-in material that permitted GL to make the PT. Or rather, make the Special Editions, which in turn enabled him to make the PT. He was broke after RotJ.

But I would put more weight on the merchandise and toys than a pair of comics. Or even all of them. The storylines of the PT certainly don't owe anything obvious to the TTT or DE.

Insofar as they revealed interest for SW among the public, that may be a point. But I don't think it was in any way decisive. As I recall, it was GL seeing Jurassic Park that prompted him to start work on the PT, because now there was CGI tech to permit his vision. Plus, he finally had the cash to spare. Hypotehtical ability, and the money required, strike me as far more valid reasons for the PT's existence than any comics. Their only concievable importance was to have revealed at some point that there was public interest. Something that the Special Editions proved just fine on their own.
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But those early books and comics in '91 and '92 showed the market was still there for SW and then was followed in '95 by the new toy lines. I'm just going in sequential order here. I grew up in that time and SW was dead before the Thrawn Trilogy.


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