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  Hogy
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I'm an atheist, but I really like the Book of revelations. From what little I've read from my fathers bible books. http://bible.cc/revelation/6-8.htm.

Didn't know there were so many iterpertions of this thing. No wonder you guys have Bible lessons.


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Hogy wrote:
I'm an atheist, but I really like the Book of revelations.


I'm a Christian and my favorite book is revelations. Smile
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Everyone likes Revelations. Razz

It isn't on my top list, but the ending is great. "And God will wipe away every tear from their eyes; there shall be no more death, nor sorrow, nor crying. There shall be no more pain, for the former things have passed away." (Rev. 21:4)
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Reepicheep wrote:
Haha, Revelation is pretty cool. Trouble is I always have to separate it from Harold Camping, picket signs etc. before I can properly enjoy it.


Yeah, I have to as well... Confused
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That reminds me of the time I picked up a copy of The Message at a bookstore. They replaced the "amen" at the very end of Revelation with "oh yeah!". Shocked
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Queen Padmè Skywalker wrote:
That reminds me of the time I picked up a copy of The Message at a bookstore. They replaced the "amen" at the very end of Revelation with "oh yeah!". Shocked


My expression exactly Padme. That's just weird and wrong but I guess it still transfers the same message... sort of. Confused
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I'm a firm believer that the universe obeys natural laws, but that those laws were ordained by a Creator (namely God, as understood by left/centre Christian groups; I'm a Church of England Anglican and my wife is United, so we mostly agree on things).

It's the rare balance than many vocal groups in the newsmedia never seem to grasp. You can believe in evolution and in God at the same time. What you can't believe simultaneously is evolution and a literal interpretation of the Bible in its entirety.

So yes. Science, and interpretation of the bible (a belief that some of it is symbolic, some of it is wrong, and some of it may be absent or can be extrapolated, e.g. I believe Jesus's Love Thy Neighbour... and Do Unto Others... outweigh some intolerant beliefs found in the Old Testament).
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I think it's no surprise that I like none of them Razz .
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What's your favorite Pagan book, Life? Cool
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Taral-DLOS wrote:
I'm a firm believer that the universe obeys natural laws, but that those laws were ordained by a Creator (namely God, as understood by left/centre Christian groups; I'm a Church of England Anglican and my wife is United, so we mostly agree on things).

It's the rare balance than many vocal groups in the newsmedia never seem to grasp. You can believe in evolution and in God at the same time. What you can't believe simultaneously is evolution and a literal interpretation of the Bible in its entirety.

So yes. Science, and interpretation of the bible (a belief that some of it is symbolic, some of it is wrong, and some of it may be absent or can be extrapolated, e.g. I believe Jesus's Love Thy Neighbour... and Do Unto Others... outweigh some intolerant beliefs found in the Old Testament).


I feel like creation vs. evolution debates are missing the point. The people who wrote the Bible weren't empirical evidence Nazis like we are and had a better understanding of myth and symbolism. I've had a couple Christians object to me using the word "myth" when talking about the Bible, but I think that just shows how ignorant us moderns are on the subject. It's either literal and true or mythical and useless. When we use the word "myth" we generally use it in the "10 Myths About Dieting" sense and not in the full sense our ancestors gave it. A myth is not a quaint story explaining scientific phenomena that people told when they were ignorant and unenlightened. The Bible is for learning about God not learning a science lesson.

Anyway (notice how this subject always comes up Razz )...
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Reepicheep wrote:
The Bible is for learning about God not learning a science lesson.


I like the way you think Reep! Smile
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Darth Skuldren wrote:
What's your favorite Pagan book, Life? Cool


I don't have one. And that's a bit of a misnomer. There are pagan stories, and philosophical books written by pagans, but there's no how-to book on how to be a good pagan. That's something I've never really liked about Christianity. Well, there may be some modern self-help books out there, but that's kind of cheating Razz .

EDIT: How about Aesop's Fables? Razz
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Wonder if Aesop's Fables is available as an eBook on Amazon. If so, I'll check it out.

Edit: yep, it's on Amazon. Free, too. Now I'll have to give it a read.
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Besides the Bible, what books have influenced your beliefs the most?
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Honestly, I think I've been more influenced by people than books. That's a tough one, though.
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