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Pablo Hidalgo has said the cinematic and EU are separate universes, and really that's the only way to preserve post-ROTJ stories in light of this news.


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I'm having a hard time keeping up with all the news.

And I really hope that that's not what happens in the end.


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I don't care about Disney, although Pixar was better without them, merging them with ILM is a natural choice. But make no mistake, Disney effed up Marvel comics and the Avengers movie is crap. Did you think that Episode One was a big improvement because it was full of CGI and cheesy oneliners? That's what the Avengers is with ZERO continuity or recognition other than character names from it's source material.

If that is what we are hoping for on the bright side, then count me out.
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I don't care about Disney, although Pixar was better without them, merging them with ILM is a natural choice. But make no mistake, Disney effed up Marvel comics and the Avengers movie is crap. Did you think that Episode One was a big improvement because it was full of CGI and cheesy oneliners? That's what the Avengers is with ZERO continuity or recognition other than character names from it's source material.

If that is what we are hoping for on the bright side, then count me out.


The Avengers (indeed all current Marvel) is more in continuity with the Ultimate characters, tand they're picking from certain stories rather than specific full arcs from the comics. If you hate the Avengers film for all the reasons you just listed you'll also have to rant in anger against Nolan's Batman films because they went the same way, picking from all sorts of stories and changing some characters so to be unrecognizable, but they wound up being great films anyway.
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I strongly disagree that Nolan's films are comparable to The Avengers in terms of the reason why I didn't like the movie. But you are correct about adaptations. Avengers is based on a largely alternate reality, as you said Ultimate. Nolan Batman, pretty nothing definite from the comics. And that is the precisely why it's bad for Star Wars.

Not having a million different alternate realities that can push the reset button when they get too stupid to function is what made SW different. Well, we'll just have to learn to live with it or not.

But ya know, maybe we are being too hasty. Besides the much beloved Thrawn, would wiping out the post ROTJ EU really be the worst thing for SW? It's something that we forsaw could happen for a long time, but I guess never really believed that it could actually.
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Dog-Poop_Walker wrote:

Not having a million different alternate realities that can push the reset button when they get too stupid to function is what made SW different. Well, we'll just have to learn to live with it or not.


Sadly I think these new SW films will be all kinds of awful. I doubt I'll even see them, especially if they tread on my beloved EU (because we know that it'll pretty much wipe it all out and that it'll be rebooted) so ya, overall just angry at the situation.
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Darth_Henning wrote:
Dancelittleewok wrote:
Pablo Hidalgo has said the cinematic and EU are separate universes, and really that's the only way to preserve post-ROTJ stories in light of this news.


Link?

I'm having a hard time keeping up with all the news.


Pablo Hidalgo tweeted on July 23:

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The people most surprised by the "news" that the #SWEU & the cinematic universe are separate are the ones most versed to see it.


This followed Star Wars Insider #134 interview with Dave Filoni where he said:

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There is no clear illustration of the difference between the Expanded Universe and the Star Wars created by George Lucas. The EU is a well of ideas, and there is what’s on screen. They don’t live in the same universe. Everyone wants to think so. I know, and there is a lot of effort to make it all work, but it’s pretty clear when you start looking at it that when you take ideas from the printed realm and bring it on screen, it’s not always the same. They relate. There are similarities. I still enjoy a lot of those stories. I think there are a lot of great story ideas. They inspire you, which is the whole point of having an EU. We try to honor things when we can, to give nods to things, but at the end of the day there is a difference what you see in the Star Wars films and TV series and what you see in those books.


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And I really hope that that's not what happens in the end.

I suppose it's better than killing it. *shrug*

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Besides the much beloved Thrawn, would wiping out the post ROTJ EU really be the worst thing for SW?

Invincible is no longer canon? YES!
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In response to DPW's statement earlier about if it would really be that bad yes, I would lose the NJO and that would be frustrating for me.
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haha. C, I forgot about that. I guess that says something.

But hey, speaking of Marvel/ Disney, does this mean that Dark Horse won't be publishing SW comics in the future? Wonder how that works.
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Darth_Henning wrote:
Dancelittleewok wrote:
Pablo Hidalgo has said the cinematic and EU are separate universes, and really that's the only way to preserve post-ROTJ stories in light of this news.


Link?

I'm having a hard time keeping up with all the news.

And I really hope that that's not what happens in the end.


It was in the ERC, and Filoni has said the same in a recent Insider.


And Canon is no longer canon at the moment. IN SW Canon is what GL determines it today. With him out of the way - holy smokes- canon just might be SOLID AGAIN!
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Most people are very happy about this because all they care about is new films. I'm sure Disney does too. They don't care about us. People who have bought everything that SW has made for the last 30 years don't mean anything compared to Opening Weekend Box Office Records.
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Actually, I'm rather excited about the new films. The fact of the matter is, we don't know what's going to happen. You can suspect, and you might be right, but it's pointless to write it off now just because of what might happen. I feel it's much better - and will perhaps keep you sane - if you are merely cautiously optimistic, or at the very least neutral about it.


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Sorry for the double post. For funsies, what are the odds that the next trilogy will be based on Dark Empire? Laughing
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The new movies won't heed EU continuity. Sorry for everyone hoping for a Thrawn adaptation.


How do you know? We haven't heard any announcement about what will be in the new movies, just that there will be new movies.


I just know.

The divergences between CU and EU are going to become more pronounced in the months to come, thanks to the Clone Wars. Some things happen that make the two universes irreconcilable, and that was a deliberate choice.

The new order of things is to split the films and the Clone Wars series into their own universe, and allow the EU to continue as it has without interruption. This should make anyone upset about the Clone Wars' discontinuity with established EU material happy.


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Darth_Henning wrote:
Dancelittleewok wrote:
Pablo Hidalgo has said the cinematic and EU are separate universes, and really that's the only way to preserve post-ROTJ stories in light of this news.


Link?

I'm having a hard time keeping up with all the news.

And I really hope that that's not what happens in the end.


That was my greatest fear.

Im out I think
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My new fear is the comic book side of SW. There is no way they will let dark horse continue with SW after this contract is up with marvel in disneys ranks. What does this mean for our fav authors/arcs from DH?!
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