The Continuity Discussion

Knight Joined: 20 Jul 2011 Posts: 110

Kathy, I mean KK, is the Disney representative. Who will run the whole thing on their behalf. And since the need for a leader at all, as opposed to a list of directives from Lucas that can be followed for all eternity, implies decision-making, I find it hard to think business decisions will not be made at all ever. Even if not right away. Any decision made by a leader entails change. Lots to hope for that everything will just stay status quo. Especially if it turns out that status quo is less than cost-effective.

All I ever hear about the EU outside dedicated forums is how damn convoluted it is. And christ, as a Holocron nut, I know the truth of that intimately. It is a messy patchwork. Definitely not newcomer-friendly, which is an argument I hear about DC and Marvel often enough: How the movies prove the audience is receptive to these stories, but that the messy continuity and endless self-reference is a strong alienating force against actually reading the comics. Besides, as you say, the audence won't notice EU continuity, so why spend anything on it?

I never meant to imply Marvel's canon troubles had anything to do with Disney. But it was an example of how the ST rebooting the EU would merely reduce SW to every other point of comparison continuity-wise. Disney wouldn't be a bad mouse for eradicating Holocron continuity. It would be just like all the other mouses in the room.

I was talking about EU continuity here. If you spoke only of continuity with the Lucasverse, then we have talked past each other. Naturally we should expect the ST to continue on from the OT and PT.
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Knight Joined: 20 Jul 2011 Posts: 110

Too much of your post has been devoted to evasion or arguing over things either already answered, or which you have proven to know the answer to in the past. Too much to deserve a reply. I am not going to enable you. Here is what is left:

Continuing the continuity discussion, if the books and comics try to adapt to the new Star Wars movies, what will happen if Star Wars Episode VII makes a small but significant change?

Let's say they actually adapt quite a bit of the EU. They decide to keep the Thrawn Trilogy, have Luke marry Mara, Han and Leia have kids...but they make a change somewhere. Maybe Han and Leia only have two kids instead of three (no Anakin). Maybe Luke and Mara have a kid, but it's a girl instead of a boy. How could the books and comics adapt to embrace a change in continuity like that? Can they do it?
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Knight Joined: 02 Sep 2012 Posts: 277

^ The exact question I have asked my wife on multiple occasions, in multiple different ways. She does not read SW and doesn't listen/care and says it will be ok lol! I get it though and don't think there is any chance of adapting to say a change of how many kids they have or Luke and Mara being together. That's going to bring on split universe, ya ya people say that's fine but I think it's rather lame. Why continue to write books for a discontinued line of stories when the "chance for money" will come with marketing all products towards the new movies? It's weak but all we can do is sit and wait..... And hope the first screen shots have Luke standing next to a red haired actress then take a big sigh of relief
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Knight Joined: 12 Apr 2011 Posts: 386 Location: Canada

No matter what happens I think that they will be able to salvage almost all of the post ROTJ EU with retcons.

If Luke has a daughter instead of a son in the movies, retcon that she was off on some other planet for all the novels, and do the same thing with Ben for the movie events. It's a bit much, but it's workable.

At worst we would have the whole post ROTJ EU bumped down to D canon, but it shouldn't effect all of the rest of the EU and the further back you get the harder it will be to overwrite anything with the movies more than they already have with the prequels and TCW.
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Retcon #1: Luke steps out of Waru and tells Han "I had this terrible dream about these aliens called Yuuzhan Vong, a Killik Dark Nest, and something called Abeloth."

Retcon #2: Adapt Stover's "it's all a holovid" approach. We've been reading the book equivalent of Star Wars holovids all these years. Heck, they could make the books in-universe holovid canon. "Hey Han, have you checked out this holovid 'Star By Star'?" Han: "I HATE THAT MOVIE! If I ever find the guy who wrote that script..."

And I stand by my small but significant statement. A big significant change would be something like turning Tarfang into a Wookiee Laughing

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Knight Joined: 12 Apr 2011 Posts: 386 Location: Canada

I wonder if we'll ever get retcon updated novels as re-releases.
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Here's one for continuity: Max Reebo only had two limbs

http://starwarsblog.starwars.com/index.php/2013/02/20/star-wars-mysteries-getting-to-the-bottom-of-max-rebo/

So should the Ortolan species be retconned to have only two limbs? Or did Max lose a couple appendages in a bar fight?
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Neither. Initial production design does not equal canon. The source material does not show the presence or absence of legs, and subsequent material shows that Ortolans have legs.

If this was a problem necessitating a retcon, then LFL would have not allowed the production of an inaccurate action figure in 1984.

I believe a retcon will only be required if a future edition of Episode VI includes a new scene where Max Rebo is shown from behind, sitting on a cushion.
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