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  Alan Skywalker V
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Looks like 2014 may be slim pickings as far as novels go. Maul:Lockdown in January, Honor Among Thieves in March(I think), plus the Luke novel. With Sword of the Jedi and the Kemp duology apparently in limbo, will three books be all we get next year - unless work starts on Episode VII tie in material?


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You know, one of the reasons I liked the EU was because it fleshed out the universe to the point where RPG settings were possible. I enjoy SW games very much. The movies were too limited to do that. But with TCW, and now Rebels, the ST and the spinoffs, the Lucas/Disneyverse has finally been fleshed out the the point where the EU isn't needed for that purpose anymore. And it will only get richer.

So that made my desicion to quit the EU and rely only on the Lucasverse much easier. I'm actually having some fun recently unlearning EU facts and rediscovering the spirit of the true GFFA, arriving at conclusions like there being no other Purge survivors, darksiders indeed having their destiny dominated forever, there being no Force sects outside the Nightsisters, Jedi and Sith, the Sith only ever having been two at a time, droids having no rigid classifications and programming priorities, there being a relatively small rooster of possible Force Powers etc. etc. etc.

Apocalypse? Maybe. But also rebirth.
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Some days I actually get excited about new Star Wars movies and stuff... but today I just want the Disney-verse to die in a fiery hole. Evil or Very Mad

EU killers...
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Due to anything in particular that's been announced, or just a general downswing in mood?
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Downswing in mood. When I posted the current match in the Best Thing thread (Mara vs. Lightsabers), it brought back memories of all our beloved characters from the EU. I started getting really nostalgic and inevitably got pretty ticked at Disney, Lucas etc. for killing the EU.
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Well it technically isn't dead yet. Bit of a holding pattern, but certainly no declaration of death. I may be an optimist, but there is the possibility we could see some EU in the new sequel trilogy regardless of how many public outlets are against that.
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You don't need to be an optimist to think so. Throwaway movie references seem more than likely.

I think Reep was talking about the truth value of the EU getting killed. And references won't help against that, if other content blatantly proves there was no truth value to it in the first place -save that which the moves dictate, which is no different from brand new content.

With the likely consequence that no more material will be made for the EU that we know.
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It is very true that nothing has officially been said about whether the EU will be erased by the new movies, but I'm 95% sure it will be. MRN is right though; the thing that really got me, before the Sequel Trilogy was even announced, was Lucas relegating the EU to "fanfiction". I've written on this site many, many times why this is so wrong, so I won't do so again.

I was actually getting excited about the new movies recently, but now I'm in the mood to boycott again...
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Well at least they have given us time to prepere for the Inevitable.

While I'm sure there'll be a lot of bitching about how Disney raped their childhood and such, no one will actually be able to say that he/she didn't see it coming.


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Calling the EU fanfic is quite the insult, even if you don't like it at all and don't consider it canon. The authors who wrote the books are just that, professional writers that were commissioned by a publishing company to create material for sale and dozens of them were on the NY Times bestseller list.

PS. I know that no one here is saying that, it just makes me mad that people do say it.
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^ Yup.
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Dog-Poop_Walker wrote:
Calling the EU fanfic is quite the insult, even if you don't like it at all and don't consider it canon. The authors who wrote the books are just that, professional writers that were commissioned by a publishing company to create material for sale and dozens of them were on the NY Times bestseller list.

PS. I know that no one here is saying that, it just makes me mad that people do say it.


Got in an argument with a Star Trek fan once. They claimed their EU was professionally written, entertaining, and should be canon while Star Wars EU was nothing but trashy fanfic. People make me mad...
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Fanfic or not is a matter of perspective. In the context of truth value it isn't an unfair comparison to make. But quality and officialness are obviously grossly in favour of tie-ins.

So if I see tie-ins compared to fanfics in the context of canonicity, I can't very well blame the one saying so, even if they are wrong in other contexts.
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Wow, this thread has been dormant for a long time!

I was looking for a thread in which to write something about how I've been feeling/thinking about SW as of late. I didn't want to start a new thread, so I think this is the best place. Here it goes...

Hi. My name is Steve. I've been a SW fan since age 7 in May 1977 (you do the math). For most of my young years (into my late teens) I was exclusively a SW fan/collector. In the late 80's my fandom waned as I entered college and was in pursuit of an Air Force fighter pilot career (gee...I wonder where I got that idea from?). Along came Heir to the Empire and Dark Empire (I hated Luke turning to the Dark Side) to reignite my love of SW. They came with the idea that since there would be no more movies that the story would continue in book and comic form. Over the years I read all of the books and comics with a renewed love of the franchise. I played the video games and even started collecting the toys again (well, until my kids came along and I didn't have the money to collect toys anymore). I got so into it that I even joined the Rebel Legion with a costume of my favorite EU character: Corran Horn. I even got my daughter to join as Jysella Horn.

While there were some things in the EU that I didn't like, for the most part I was happy with it and prided myself on my EU knowledge. Then the big announcement...Disney owned SW and would make the ST and more. I was super excited, but a little worried at the same time. What would happen to our precious EU? I was on message boards that discussed a reboot of the EU. I discussed both sides and even a middle ground. When the Legends announcement hit I think I was disappointed, but had come to expect something like it. However, as we go further and further into the new canon I'm finding myself less and less interested. Curious? Yes. Curious to see how much of the EU they'll keep.

As I grow older I struggle with the thought of just how much should I really be "into" SW? Is it just trying to hold onto that boy I used to be? Grasping at a youth I should have out grown? I don't really think that is it, but I can't put my finger on it. Sometimes I think I should think a lot less about SW in general and free up that time and energy to more adult things like working on my house, my yard, better maintaining my car, better preparing my teenage kids for adulthood, etc. The more and more that we hear about VII, the new comics, the upcoming books, etc. the more I think I'm falling out of love with SW.

I used to think that I'd try to read everything of the new canon from the beginning (ie. Son of Dathomir and A New Dawn). I started. Couldn't get into Tarkin and even though Luke is my fav. movie character I can't say I'm too excited about Heir to the Jedi. Don't get me wrong, there is still a part of me that is interested in SW, just not like I used to be.

I don't really know why I wanted to share this. Maybe to see if others here may have the same feeling/thoughts.


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In some ways my fandom is in better shape than it's been in for years. I'm slowly doing a post-RotJ EU re-read starting with the Thrawn Trilogy and, even though I'm only two books in, I've really enjoyed it so far. I took a long break from Star Wars reading and coming back to it now feels like going home. I'm also collecting books again, which I stopped even before I took a break from reading the EU.

As for the Disney-verse... well at least I'm not as angry about it as I was. I have no interest in the new "Expanded Universe", but I watch Rebels and anticipate the new movies with casual interest. I guess I understand where the grouchy old OT purists come from now. Even if I really like the ST and other stuff in the "new canon" it won't be my Star Wars, the one I grew up with. That consists of the six films and the EU.

But I don't know for some reason I've felt more like a Star Wars fan recently than I have in years. The EU re-read probably has something to do with it.

And, Skywalker2B, I wouldn't worry about feeling too old for Star Wars. I believe that we should always keep a part of our childhood with us. That's the part of us that keeps us from becoming cynics. I for one would be in rough shape if I stopped believing in heroes.
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