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such an obvious play for the young adult audience.


lol I don't think so. Have you seen Requiem For A Dream and The Wrestler?


From a marketing standpoint, where they try to target the 18-25 year-olds (which is how I'm defining young adult), mentioning Emma Watson in the trailer is a ploy directed right at that audience.
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Based on that literal definition of young adult, sure. As C. said, Black Swan would also fall into that group. The movies that I mentioned I think skew toward an older audience, in particular The Wrestler which was starring a middle aged cast. Requiem just contained graphic material and themes that put it into a hard R, or even NC17 rating for the uncut version. The director's other films Pi and The Fountain were not graphic, but were also R rated and dealt with mature themes and starred an older adult and middle aged cast.

Typically when referring to Young Adult in literature they are talking about material geared toward highschool aged people and the films seldom rate above a PG13. In particular books/films like Harry Potter, Twilight and The Hunger Games.
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Dog-Poop_Walker wrote:
Typically when referring to Young Adult in literature they are talking about material geared toward highschool aged people and the films seldom rate above a PG13. In particular books/films like Harry Potter, Twilight and The Hunger Games.


I would say YA Lit. goes even lower than high school age down to middle school. HP was classified as Children's although I think starting with Goblet of Fire, the books trended up to the YA level.

@Grandmaster -- I also think by saying they're using Emma Watson to draw in the YA crowd, it's like saying she has to confine herself and isn't allowed to grow as an actress or allowed to be in movies that are adult in content/message.
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@Grandmaster -- I also think by saying they're using Emma Watson to draw in the YA crowd, it's like saying she has to confine herself and isn't allowed to grow as an actress or allowed to be in movies that are adult in content/message.


I don't think she has to confine herself at all - I just think that the marketing people want to keep using her to draw Harry Potter fans, in the same way that, say, Nathan Fillion is used to draw Firefly fans. I definitely want her to do movies with more adult content, but for now at least, the people making movie trailers and posters are going to push her more to the forefront in order to maximize sales.
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I just got back from Catching Fire!

I don't know if I've ever seen a more literal adaptation, even down to the dialogue. I really have no complaints from an adaptation, other than Johanna's antagonism towards Katniss being toned down. Really good movie and great adaptation. Jennifer Lawrence was amazing as always. The last scene with Cinna broke my heart though. Sad I was worried about Francis Lawrence, but I had nothing to worry about out and I'm excited to see what he'll do with Mockingjay.

I seem to be in the minority here, but I think I still like the first movie better. I liked how it felt more personal and relatively small-scale. I didn't expect Catching Fire to follow suit since the book does the whole "bigger and better" thing. Spectacle is an important idea in these stories after all and I understand that. It's just a personal preference. I also missed the film techniques Gary Ross used like the sound design (e.g. ears ringing, roaring audience) and, yes, the shaky cam.

After these movies nailing the story as they did, I almost feel ready to forget about the books (which is an odd statement coming from me!). The movies have all that is best about the books, some extra good stuff the books didn't have, and don't have the unnecessary stuff, awkward writing etc. We'll see what they do with Mockingjay.
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Double piece of news concerning both Disney and Paramount:

Jerry Bruckheimer is moving to Paramount, and a deal has been reached between Paramount and Disney to allow the Mouse to release any future Indiana Jones films.


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So I watched a trailer for Jurassic Park 4 which turned out to be a fake, but they used clips from a movie called The Hunter, so I decided to watch it. Turns out, it was really good.

It stars Willem Dafoe and features Sam Niell. Dafoe is a hunter who isn't afraid to go outside the boundaries of the law. He takes a job to hunt down and kill what might be the last of the Tasmanian Tigers in order to get complete DNA samples for some research company. So he heads to Tasmania and begins his hunt.

The story, however, takes some interesting turns. At first it's kind of a funny look at him having a really bad day. The location he gets sent to in Tasmania presents difficulties. The house he stays at has no working electricity. The locals are unfriendly to outsiders. And then there are the people who live in the house he's staying at. It's a widow and two kids. The kids are spunky and follow him around.

The acting and the characters in the film are superb. There are some beautiful shots of the forests and landscapes. The film does a lot to invoke the scenery of the location. It's a tale of an introspective man with questionable morals who finds himself alone out in the wilds of Tasmania as he hunts for something that might not even exists. He runs into troubles, and after every 12 days, he heads back to the house for supplies and deals with the kids and the widow. As time passes, he begins to adapt to the situation. He begins to like the family. He begins to questions what he's doing.

It's a rather emotional story and very well done. I highly recommend checking it out.
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Recently watched Rise of the Guardians and Battleship. The former was great.

The latter ... not so much. I didn't even bother to finish it, and it's very rare that I don't watch movies all the way through.

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How in the world could Alex Hopper have gotten into the Navy when he was already 26 and had been arrested to boot, make Leiutenant by the time he was 33 and still having discipline issues, and then be promoted to Lt. Commander at the end of the film (though, if you look carefully at his shoulder boards when he walks up to recieve Stone's Navy Cross, the boards show the insignia of a full Lt., not a Lt. Commander)?

For that matter, Stone Hopper, if I'm not mistaken, shouldn't have been the CO of a destroyer, but rather an XO, considering his rank. I feel the film was either poorly researched when it came to how the US Navy actually functions, or else the writers and director deliberately ignored that in favor of plot. I know other military films have done stuff like this, but Battleship seems to be the worst.


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I thought Battleship was a fun piece of fluff, and I enjoyed it. Also Liam Neeson. Since the Navy doesn't actually fight aliens, I'm not too fussed about any other wrong details that really didn't make any difference to a fluff, brain candy movie.

Now if it's an actual real history movie involving the Navy, I'd probably be annoyed at stuff that should be correct but isn't.
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I saw The Hobbit: The Desolation of Smaug at midnight on Friday. It was a pretty good movie, though book purists beware - certain liberties are taken with the story, but I liked them. This one was much better paced than the first one, so while it is still 2 and 1/2 hours, it doesn't feel very long.
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Interstellar teaser! Very Happy

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nyc6RJEEe0U
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Ah, we've reached time to discuss the new film. Very well then, here I go...

WARNING! This will contain spoilers for not only this film, but the next one due to the fact that I read the book. If you haven't beware, I'm going to reveal several things to lend context to my views on parts of this film.

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For those who don't open the spoiler box I'll go ahead and post something basic here.

The bare bones of The Hobbit are there, but its fan fiction at this point. If you're a purist you'll hate this, if you're looking for consistency or more character work than we got in the first film you might like parts of it, but if you're a casual film-goer who is looking for a popcorn flick this will be a fun way to kill a Saturday afternoon. Its not a great film, its not a bad film, its watchable.
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I've yet to see The Hobbit, but did anyone see Frozen? Being a Disney buff, I adored it.
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So they kinda tried to work in the Nim storyline from Simalrillian?
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So they kinda tried to work in the Nim storyline from Simalrillian?


Nah, not really. Nim is just a location where nothing like what they did in the film happened (its also a wonderful story about mice if anyone has read that).

Its not The Hobbit anymore, its just an action film. There's a hobbit and some dwarves and elves and even a dragon, but it only goes with the basic bones while adding padding.
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