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Dawn of the Jedi: Force War TPB



Writer: John Ostrander
Penciller: Jan Duursema
Inker: Dan Parsons
Colorist: Wes Dzioba
Cover Artist: David Michael Beck
Release Date: June 11, 2014
Details: FC, 128 pages, $19.99, TPB, 7” x 10”

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I'm caught up with Dawn of the Jedi now (been putting off reading them for a while). Some nice art moments in Force War #3, but also a very dark story. I can't help but think there will be hardly any closure in this series since they only have two more issues left. There's no way they can wrap everything up.
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Darth Skuldren wrote:
I'm caught up with Dawn of the Jedi now (been putting off reading them for a while). Some nice art moments in Force War #3, but also a very dark story. I can't help but think there will be hardly any closure in this series since they only have two more issues left. There's no way they can wrap everything up.


They could still do a fourth arc before the end of 2014.
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Taral-DLOS wrote:
Darth Skuldren wrote:
I'm caught up with Dawn of the Jedi now (been putting off reading them for a while). Some nice art moments in Force War #3, but also a very dark story. I can't help but think there will be hardly any closure in this series since they only have two more issues left. There's no way they can wrap everything up.


They could still do a fourth arc before the end of 2014.


Yeah but I'm pretty sure its been stated that it'll be ended with this 3rd one.

A pity because this is one of my favorite comics coming out altogether and its ending so prematurely.
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They could decide to do another, but Jan did say on Facebook that they would be wrapping up with issue #5 of Force War.
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I feel like this series is getting the short straw unfortunately.

The current arc started out feeling a tad rushed and I think it was due to the announcement and the impending decision to move the franchise to Marvel. Then that happened and they got cancelled.

The crew deserves better and so do the characters they created, as well as the world since its interesting as hell.
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On the plus side they have established this universe so they could now carry it forward in novels or other media.
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I just wrote a blog post about the Dawn of the Jedi comics, as well as the Into the Void novel and Eruption short story.

http://taralbooks.blogspot.ca/2017/04/star-wars-dawn-of-jedi-fun-stories-but.html

In brief, I speculate that this story might have been significantly better if it didn't have the words "Star Wars" on it. I think it might have been better as an original IP.
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That would've actually worked, but I think it was interesting what they were doing with it. The comic was okay, but I really liked what Tim Lebbon was able to do with it in his novel. The concept worked really well there.
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Darth Skuldren wrote:
That would've actually worked, but I think it was interesting what they were doing with it. The comic was okay, but I really liked what Tim Lebbon was able to do with it in his novel. The concept worked really well there.


Yeah, I liked Lebbon's novel quite a bit. It benefited from being a standalone adventure in the world the comics were building.

Which, in a way, reinforces the idea that you could swap out everything specific to the Star Wars IP with original or neutral terms and it would still work (and might work even better, because we don't tend to think of Star Wars as being reduced to one star system, metal swords, and dark and light being equally important).
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So, Taral, are you saying that Dawn of the Jedi was a good fantasy story, but because it is so loosely connected with the Saga it would be be better off as a completely separate universe with no connection to Star Wars at all? Or do you just mean from a marketing perspective, it's a little misleading to call it "Star Wars" when it's so different from what we've come to expect of things with that name on it?

I've never read anything from that time period, so I'm just curious.
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It has swords, Reep, how have you not read them? Cool
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^ You know... I think I will. Razz
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Reep, it has a decent mount in common with the Tales of the Old Republic comics in some ways. It goes back further and plays with different ideas, but there are similarities. I like the comic series and novel a lot actually, and think they make a nice precursor to the SW universe.
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Reepicheep wrote:
So, Taral, are you saying that Dawn of the Jedi was a good fantasy story, but because it is so loosely connected with the Saga it would be be better off as a completely separate universe with no connection to Star Wars at all? Or do you just mean from a marketing perspective, it's a little misleading to call it "Star Wars" when it's so different from what we've come to expect of things with that name on it?

I've never read anything from that time period, so I'm just curious.


It isn't misleading to call it Star Wars. I'm saying it's a good fantasy-set-on-another-planet story that you could sub out the aliens for other races and rename it "Knights of the Stars" or something like that and have it work just as well.

The mechanism used to have a racially diverse Tython system was dumb. They wanted Jedi of different races, but the idea of the Tho Yor mysteriously summoning Force-sensitive people on different planets and depositing them on Tython was dumb. In an unconnected story, you can arrange it for that system to have different races already on it.

The Je'daii in Dawn of the Jedi are sufficiently distinct from the Jedi they will one day be that you can sever the connection to the rest of the saga. I like the idea of falling too far into the light, just as one can fall into far into the dark, but that isn't want the movie Jedi are about. Having a balanced perspective is a great philosophy for a new group in a new IP, but not as the progenitors of the Jedi we know and love.

So yes, my thesis is that one could re-write Into the Void and the three comic arcs as original fiction and it would work just as well, if not better.
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