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Episode VII in theaters makes you...
...ECSTATIC
18%
 18%  [ 6 ]
...SCARED SITHLESS for the EU
34%
 34%  [ 11 ]
...Speechless
3%
 3%  [ 1 ]
...All of the above
43%
 43%  [ 14 ]
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Indeed. There was a lot in TCW that I liked in its own right. That it was such a drastic change was unfortunate. But I had a hard time complaining because I usually liked the newer stories on their own, or in some cases better than what had been done before. There are some exceptions. Somethings I just didn't like or see the point of. But overall it was fine.

I am actually curious if they will even use characters. Will Han and Leia have twin kids? Will Mara exist? It would be so different to imagine the families any other way, and yet there's a part of me that wants to see what draft 2 of galactic history could be.
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I've a question: Movie or novelization first? As far as I know, all the other novelizations to the films came out before the movie, and so I think it's reasonable to assume the next one will be no different. What I want to know is if you're going to be reading the novelization first, or will wait to see the movie first, so that that can be your first experience of it?


And further, do you normally read the novelization first, or not? Will you change your usual habit (whatever it may be) for this film?

I generally don't bother with novelizations, but I think I might with this one.

Also, it's beyond unnatural to use the Z instead of the S in novelizations, but it so happens to be the correct spelling.
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I do plan on reading the novelization, but I'm definitely going to watch the movie first. My general rule is to experience the original first, then the adaptation.

I wonder who is going to write the novelization?
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Life Is The Path wrote:
I've a question: Movie or novelization first? As far as I know, all the other novelizations to the films came out before the movie, and so I think it's reasonable to assume the next one will be no different. What I want to know is if you're going to be reading the novelization first, or will wait to see the movie first, so that that can be your first experience of it?


And further, do you normally read the novelization first, or not? Will you change your usual habit (whatever it may be) for this film?

I generally don't bother with novelizations, but I think I might with this one.

Also, it's beyond unnatural to use the Z instead of the S in novelizations, but it so happens to be the correct spelling.


Novel before movie, but movie before novelization.

That ization makes the difference.

I like Reep's idea: the original, then the adaptation. Order of release is not important in this case; the novelization is the adaptation.

The counter-example is with superhero movies. A lot of the time, the movies draw from source material, but are not "adaptations" of specific stories. For example, the recent "The Wolverine" drew heavily from the Claremont/Miller 1982 "Wolverine" miniseries, but it did not adapt that story. A lot of comic book fans get under the impression that the movie is an adaptation of the book, and get really upset when the movie is different. So I've encouraged people to see the movie first, and then if they like it try to explore the comics (particularly for Guardians of the Galaxy; the characters look largely different from their book counterparts, but no less interesting--if you like the movie, you might like the comics, but if you're spoiled with the comics, your mind may be closed to the movie).
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I doubt I will read any movie novels. Considering the track record so far, they just wouldn't be reliable sources.
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I'll definitely watch the movie first and yes that is my usual habit.


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DarthMRN wrote:
I doubt I will read any movie novels. Considering the track record so far, they just wouldn't be reliable sources.


When it comes to depicting exactly what happens, then I totally agree, but you have to remember that the Episode III novelization is one of the best works of EU out there.

Indeed, I prefer it to the movie.
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No argument about the RotS quality. But I don't read SW for its quality. I read SW for its canonicity.
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DarthMRN wrote:
No argument about the RotS quality. But I don't read SW for its quality. I read SW for its canonicity.


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I will be reading the book first, just because I'll be spoiled rotten by the time the film comes out anyway. Laughing

I did the same with Episode III, and I loved seeing in the theater what I read the week before. It didn't ruin the magic of seeing Star Wars on the big screen. Smile
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I'd rather see the movie first and read the book after. It's worth noting that we might not see the book released until after the movie. The novelization for Star Trek: Into Darkness by Alan Dean Foster didn't come out until 5 days after the release of the movie.
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Five days? Amazon must have the wrong date, then, because it says it came out in October (the film came out in April/May). Is that something that's normal for the Star Trek films, though? Or even Abrams' films? It certainly can come out after the film, I was just basing my assumption on the fact that all the novelizations (even for TCW film) came out beforehand.
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With Star Wars, the books have always come out before. But that was the pre-Disney, pre-Abrams era.

Notes:
Star Trek Into Darkness aired May 16
novelization came out May 21 (according to Amazon and B&N)
Star Trek The Motion Picture aired May 8
novelization came out June 16
Star Trek: Nemesis aired December 13
novelization came out December 13
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Darth Skuldren wrote:
With Star Wars, the books have always come out before. But that was the pre-Disney, pre-Abrams era.

Notes:
Star Trek Into Darkness aired May 16
novelization came out May 21 (according to Amazon and B&N)
Star Trek The Motion Picture aired May 8
novelization came out June 16
Star Trek: Nemesis aired December 13
novelization came out December 13


I wanted to be cute when writing this, but instead it came out snarky. So instead I'll just say it: please note that "Star Trek The Motion Picture" is not/NOT the 2009 movie you're referring to above.

Star Trek: The Motion Picture is that some-say-good/some-say-bad movie from December 1979. It is important that we not confuse the generally-very-good 2009 movie with the weird 1979 one.
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So I am becoming suspicious that this is the most massive JJ Abrams misdirect in history. And that no matter what gets announced or published, no matter what trailers there are, what footage gets leaked, what actors say, despite all of these things we will sit in the theaters on December 18th, 2015 and the credits will roll to reveal
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