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| then explain to me, are you not doing the same thing by making a Constitutional Amendment about your beliefs? |
It really isnt the same. Gay's have civil unions and rights as well. They can do whatever it is they do and nobody bothers them. However, if prop 8 does not get passed, then schools will teach kids about equality of gay marriage, and there will be no option to opt out. https://www.icontribute.us/protectmarriage/initiative/truth-web
Secondly, i will bring up the Church argument again, because i believe it is an important one. Churches would have to perform gay marriages if asked. How is that not religious persecution? It goes completely against what the Church believes, and you are forcing them to accept that.
And one other thing. Its really disturbing that the debate on gay's is getting pushed out the door. For example, at schools you just get called a bigot and intolerant if you disagree with gay's. There is never any intelligent debates, you just get smeared as a "homophobe." Seriously, this is just so amazing to me.
To really explain more why i am against gay marriage, i would have explain why i fundamentally disagree with homosexuality. But i dont know if this is the thread for that. To make it short though, i believe homosexuality is just sexual perversion. Its not a natural way of life, and it makes no sense at all, not even biologically. Therefore its not fair to call gay marriage an inalienable right. Thats why i believe while i have no say over what people do at home, they better keep it out of schools, religious institutions, and any other public place. And thats why i believe prop 8 is actually protecting free speech and peoples rights.
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| I get back to this, this country was built on an indivitual having the right to their own beliefs, practice their own religion with freedom from persecution. |
And again, no one is persecuting gays. Prop 8 does not stop them from doing what they do and believing what they believe. It does not even get rid of civil unions or any of that. Gay's will do what they do, fine. But the moment they try to impose their views on a large scale, and force others to go along with it without even having a fair debate, then no. I will do everything i can to fight it.
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| That's a problem I have with a party in power also in control of Congress. There will not be any common ground to find, where will they "reach across the isle" when it has to be done. The power will be lopsided and the people in power get thier way. |
I completely agree. And this goes for democrats AND republicans. Its not fair to anybody when one party rules. They will make decisions based on what they want, and they wont take the other party into consideration. This is why i am really upset with the fact that democrats might have a huge majority, in the house, congress, and white house. Really dangerous.
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BTW, this is fun. A good debate is all good  Keeps the lines of communication open - as it should be!!!!!! Still friends I hope |
Yup it is fun. No worries, still friends. I dont let opposing views get in the way of things. For example, i even have some gay friends. Of course i make my viewpoints known to them 
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