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  Mara Jade Skywalker
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So I don't know whether we've all discussed this before, but unlike most people on the planet, I had not read or watched Lord of the Rings before this year. But now, I have! I started with the Extended Editions (oh my gosh, so long), and then watched the theatrical versions. I will admit the first time through I was very critical, mostly because Jackson assumes you already know the story. I didn't, and was extremely confused, especially during The Two Towers.

But now that I've had a second viewing, I'm really falling for the whole universe. As such, I heard about Shadow of Mordor and had to purchase it. I've only put in a few hours so far, but is anyone else playing this game?

This morning I saw the following comment on a review site, which cracked me up:

"I love that this game exists, mainly because to me, the most memorable moments of the original trilogy are those during which Aragorn is wading into the crowd swinging Narsil. A welcome respite from so many hours of watching Sam deliberate whether or not he should try to make out with Mr. Frodo."

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I very much want to, it looks really amazing. In any event it went on my Christmas wish list.

I would personally recommend you read the books now. They help fill in some details and it's also pretty fun to see what they changed to make things more acceptable to a modern audience. (For example Arwen has a more prominent role in the films whereas she's mostly relegated to the appendixes of the actual books). Personally I like the Lord of the Rings more than Harry Potter but that's largely due to me favoring swords over magic (pretty much any RPG I have the option between sword/bow wielding warrior and mage I always pick sword/bow because, for whatever reason, I find it more satisfying than shooting fireballs of death at enemies).
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After a reviewer friend described it as the best game he's ever played, I felt that I must own it as soon as possible. But I have a rule, after one too many disappointing first day purchases, to never buy so quickly. I fear I must wait a few months. Anyway, have you seen that video of one player turning 19 orcs against one was chief?

Also, you haven't read the books or watched the films until recently? Oh Mara. It's not that I'm angry, I'm just disappointed .....
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I'm very picky about control schemes of video games. It looks a lot like assassin's creed or dragon age 2. I was hoping for something a little less button mashing.

It looks great, but I'm not sure about the controls. I also didn't see from the gameplay I've seen what kind of rpg elements it has, if any. I have a feeling that it might not be the game for me.
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I will admit that the first couple hours I played, I wasn't interested. It felt boring and repetitive. But that was possibly due to my lack of familiarity with the game and controls. As time goes on, I find myself becoming more and more addicted. Observations to follow:

1. There is little to no RPG element, at least not according to my definition. And I was led to believe it was an RPG. But nay. Other than choosing in what order you play quests, and where you wander on the map, you have no other choices. You rarely talk, and only in cutscenes, so there are no dialogue options, and I very strongly feel that the outcome of the game will not be affected by any choice I make. It feels more like an open world action/exploration game than an RPG.

2. Don't play for the story. The story is there, and it is mildly interesting, but it seems to be the element they push the least. To be honest, I cannot tell you where in the story I am at the moment.

3. The combat is pretty cool. I enjoy it, now that I've gotten used to it. You get a sword, a dagger and a bow. I never used my bow and arrows until I realized I could be lethal with them when used correctly. Now I use all three interchangeably. And I truly feel like I'm controlling the combat in the game, rather than mashing buttons and hoping for the best.

4. The orcs. Are you mostly interested in messing with some orcs and thereby affecting the structure of Sauron's army? Ah, well then this is why you play. It is beyond obvious that the orc army is the focal point of the game. You constantly battle various orcs throughout the map, and each captain/war chief has a personal vendetta with you. Fail to kill one when you clash, and he becomes more powerful. He will also remember you and reference the last time you fought. You can manipulate the power struggle among the various orc leaders almost like a chess game, and this is an interesting element.

5. Assassin's Creed-esque elements. Sneaking, running, climbing and scrambling through the game is, I am told, exactly like Assassin's Creed. Call it copying, but I love it. I love having to sneak through an orc stronghold to accomplish an objective without being caught. You can stealth kill the orcs you do have to cross paths with, and it all works very well.

6. The Elf Lord. I do not fully understand yet where he came from or what he is doing there, but you are guided by the spirit of an Elf Lord. He is pretty darn cool and grants you some totally awesome abilities. He also talks more than you do. So most of the story elements are made known through him. Overall he gets a plus in my book.

Those are my major observations. Do not lose me at #4, though. Had anyone told me the game was mostly your manipulation of the power struggle in Sauron's army, I would not have purchased it. But there is something emotionally manipulative about battling these orc captains and chiefs and such, because they remember who you are, and they remember how you fought, and their dialogue reflects that. In the end, you want to best them, you have a mighty need to remove their heads from their shoulders, so to speak.

I think the game is fun! It is not at all, not even remotely, what I thought it would be, but it has grown on me in a very positive way. I would definitely recommend it.
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So I just got the game and I gotta say I love it! The combat system really makes you feel like a super skilled swordsman like Aragorn from the movies and it's really satisfying when you take on a huge mob and come out alive (think Amon Hen size mob of scary death).

It's also one of the few games where dying to a huge mob doesn't feel incredibly irritating. I think it's in part because they used the Elf Wraith to basically integrate respawns into the story and have the orcs respond accordingly. For example, while sneaking along roof tops I heard some orcs commenting, with hints of fear, about this ghost Ranger that is haunting them and keeps coming back no matter how many times they kill it. That actually made me feel good about my character deaths since they were themselves serving the purpose of psychological warfare instead of just a game mechanic that didn't force you to start on square 1 each time you screwed up. The orc captains also respond similarly (like one captain, who beat me numerous times, had his motivation text read that he thought he was cursed and had to kill me to free himself from this curse; when we crossed swords in game he responded accordingly and not like he had never seen my character before even though he'd killed me 6 odd times).

I gotta admit though that the first few tries I ended up stumbling into the same 3 orc captains and getting killed by them because I was so low level (and honestly had no idea how game mechanics worked to plan better). So I kinda made it my mission to pretty much carve a bloody path through the orc army until I could dispatch those 3 orc captains with extreme prejudice. There was something incredibly satisfying checking the ranks of Sauron's Army and seeing so many corpses where captains once stood (I think I actually started killing them faster than they could be promoted!)
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I have to say that I had a very different reaction, with regards to defeating those Uruks who had killed me. When I started the game, I was dying all over the place, and consequently a lot of Uruks became very powerful, very quickly. I had every desire, later in the game, to destroy them with my Uruk allies. But instead of killing them I decided to bend them to my will. For me, that delivered a certain kind of satisfaction. To see those who thought they had bested me, now become my pawns.
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