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| Mad Wook wrote: |
So, I get credit for coining "Personal Continuity."  |
Haha, admittedly, I don't think I have heard that used before, so why not?
Doesn't really fit with my view of the difference between Canon and Continuity, but I am all for a term specifying personal retcons rather than pick & choose.
| Dancelittleewok wrote: |
| We can have both. Fans, ideally, shouldn't have to pick between quality stories and coherent continuity. The Holocron Keeper has a database to keep track of it all. If the information is available, I don't see why this is an unrealistic expectation. Instead of lowering the bar, let's raise it. Star Wars fans will be happier for it. |
Of course we can have both. But in practice it isn't very realistic. Last I heard, Leland even sent creators copies of the Holocron, and still we get discrepancies and minor oddities, so apparently its availability for research purposes isn't enough. And from what he has said of its limitations, and their dependency on the original sources, I'm not surprised. Even the Wook is more detailed than the Holocron, apparently.
And again, creators have a contract. They are to get a product on the shelves by a given date, and along the way they have tons of things to work on besides continuity for that to happen. And the sort of adherence we want would take additional time and effort that could be -that presumably has to be- spent elsewhere. And since this is a franchise for which money comes first, the idea that they would push back schedules and extend contracts for a product that for the large majority of customers is already finished and good to go, for the sake of fixing errors found by the editing team late in production, just to appease diehards on forums, is unfortunately quite stillborn. When they have after-the-fact retcons to fall back on instead, the money saved is undoubtedly worth overlooking discrepancies over.
BTW, here is that Leland comment I mentioned having given me an inkling what was going on before Pablo spilled the beans. I can no longer source it, so you'll just have to take my word for it.
| Leland and poster wrote: |
How much of the continuity do you write or rewrite?
Authors and editors often ask for suggestions on an existing planet, species, or character to use or to see what can and can't be done with a certain character. When going through approvals, I'll make small changes as necessary to make things fits within continuity. I'm often asked to be involved in the early concept discussions for new stories. When continuity conflicts arise, I may make note of the issue in Holocron and come up with a couple of potential explanations which may or may not be considered in the future. Sometimes we'll create names as needed. Beyond that, we leave the actual writing to the authors. |
Depressing, ain't it?
| Dancelittleewok wrote: |
| Not all products are canon, though. While it may reference Star Wars and become a part of continuity broadly, it's not given the same weight. If your view is correct, then it would be canon that Mara Jade Skywalker wears a catsuit at all times - and we know that's not true. |
Obviously, Infinites and other non-canon, as well as non-referenced S-canon are not continuity. And yes, the weight given to something in the case of a discrepancy will not be equal for all sources. But as far as the catsuit goes, that isn't the sort of thing I would be including in that caveat.
SW isn't nearly realistic enough that a defining outfit is a legitimate sign of unreliable canonicity. That said, the blatant differences between different media depicting the same events, even in modern continuity (Various TFU 1 & 2 media, I'm looking at you), does suggest that the nitty gritty details are a lot less reliable than we would like. I suppose a character wearing the same clothes all the time could be covered under that.
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