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there's no thread for Marvel movies so I'm starting one.


what do you guys think of the X series, the Blade trilogy, the FF duology, the Spiderman trilogy, upcoming Amazing Spiderman reboot, and most importantly (IMO) the IM/Thor/Cap/Hulk/Avengers franchise?


I was skeptical of X-Men First Class but the trailers have me thinking the movie won't suck afterall http://www.comingsoon.net/news/movienews.php?id=76913 even though I'm not it'll have any box office clout at all, I do want to see it. Maybe it's not faithful to the source material but then neither were any of the previous movies so I just rolled with the changes and total screw-ups. I think "First Class" will either make or break the future of the franchise.

THOR is just 9 days away now! I've been dying to see this movie since Kenneth Branaugh was announced as the director and the first still image of Chris Hemsworth in the Thor costume first showed up. I CANNOT WAIT TO SEE IT NEXT FRIDAY! http://www.comingsoon.net/news/movienews.php?id=74337 Yes I hate Natalie Portman but she is the ONLY mark against this movie and she's not a big enough issue to affect the opinion I form on the movie after I FINALLy get to see it. (I'm excited, can everyone tell?)

First Avenger: Captain America I have high hopes for because the trailers are AMAZING... but due to the director being Joe Jonston I just have to pray it won't end up sucking (his directorial track record is a list of total crap), early on I was the screaming annoying fanboy who was decrying the movie right off the bat. But it's impossible to argue how cool it probably will end up being: http://www.comingsoon.net/news/movienews.php?id=75527

Incredible Hulk wasn't bad. Still too much Bruce and Betty sapfest but the coolness of Tim Roth as Blonsky and the HULK himself in all his raging' "Hulk Smash!" glory were amazing. Mark Ruffalo sucks, I hope he doesn't ruin the Banner character after Norton made the nerd seem bad ass. I wish they'd give Hulk another stand-alone movie that actually showed Tim Blake Nelsson in all his twisted Leader-ship.

I LOVED LOVED LOVED the first Iron Man movie, IT was what's turned me into a drooling geek for all things Tony Stark. Yes he was cool before that but I wasn't a fan till I saw IM. And then IM2 was all kinds of awesome except for Terrence Howard's perfect Rhodey being replaced by Don Cheadle (he wasn't BAD as Rhodes but he wasn't good either... I miss Terrence in the role). BUT I AM DYING TO SEE IM IN THE AVENGERS MOVIE NEXT YEAR!!! OMG Joss Whedon directing one of comics' longest running most bad ass superher super teams ever? God yes!!!


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I liked the first Blade movie though it's been a few years since I saw it, don't remember much... I remember thinking it made the character of Blade into the bass he should be and much cooler than he'd ever been in the comics before that. Brade Trinity wasn't as bad as a lot of the internet rants I've read make it out to be... yeah it wasn't great but I was entertained for sure. Ryan Reynolds wasn't Deadpool/Wade Wilson in the movie but god he might as well have been because that was the first sign he was born to play The Merc With A Mouth (and his 5 minute appearance as DP in the *beginning* of Wolverine PROVED it). I did not see the second Blade movie, somehow I missed it, but I'll see it... eventually.

The FF movies were good. Yes they were flawed and they could've done somethings differently but overall I really enjoyed the movies. I don't want to see it rebooted because other than Galactus being nothing but a CLOUD, there was nothing so worng in the movies that a total restart is needed.

I'm a in a small minority of people who enjoyed DD. I though Daredevil was great. But Daredevil The Director's Cut was amazing! Damn it, Affleck played DD just fine and he played Matt Murdock quite well. Jon Favreau made Foggy Nelson into a MUCH better character than he was in the books. Okay yes Elektra was TOTALLY screwed up in the movies, Jennifer Garner was 100% wrong for the role but she was the only weakness in the movie. I LOVED Michael Clarke Duncan as Kingpin, HE IS THE ONLY COOL PORTRAYAL OF KINGPIN EVER IMO. Bullseye's attitude and abilities were perfect, I just didn't care for the bullseye carved into his forehead. Ouch.


and Ghost Rider... the black sheep of the Marvel movies in every way. What a random Marvelite to make a movie of, one character in a dark mythos that you either love or hate without much gray area between. GR is the anti-hero I didn't believe could possibly translate to the screen without being changed dramtically as a character and redsigned in look. But i was proven wrong, so wrong, I think the makers of the movie worked magic in bringing GR to the screen faithfully from the book. . I know I'm the ONLY fan in the whole world that truly liked the movie but I REALLY did. And I'm TOTALLY looking forward to "Ghost Rider: Spirit of Vengance" next year. Yes I even liked the absurdity of Nic Cage in the Johnny Blaze role. Okay so Wes Bentley wasn't a great Blackheart but I don't see how they could have really done much else with the live action version of the character without making him seem like a living Halloween costume, wannbe scary villain.


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I like superhero movies, but it seems to me that there's an overload of them lately. I mean, we've got Captain America, Thor, and the Avengers movies all coming out in the near future. And that's just Marvel. I'm looking forward to them, but I think they should have been spaced out a bit more.
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I really liked the Spider-man movies. The other Marvel movies were okay.
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Marvel is very hit and miss with their films. The Fantastic Four duology was awful, but they had some good films to. Spiderman 1 & 2 were great, but I was really really disappointed with 3. To the point of being done with the franchise. The new one, however, is starring a guy I trust as an actor and a director that I'm fond of so it should work out. As for Iron Man, the first one was amazing, the second one was anti-climactic and disappointing. When it comes to Thor, I'm psyched. Captain American doesn't look so good. The second attempt at a Hulk movie was alright, but then they replaced Ed Norton with Mark Ruffalo so I'm once again apathetic. Marvel has some of the best superhero films, but they are only so amazing in comparison to their horrific ones like Spidey 3, Fantastic 4 number 1, Hulk 1, and so on and so forth. Punisher 1 and 2 were kinda bad. I mean Marvel has potential but they crank out movies so fast. Personally the first 2 X-Men movies were great, but X3 was only ok and Wolverine was so awful that I considered taking up drugs to erase it as a memory. The new one looks fantastic, but I've been hurt before. I like DC better. They may not have as many good superheroes but they are learning how to space out their movies and take time to make them great. The new 2 Batman films, the upcoming Supernan film, and of course Green Lantern look great. I'm excited and I think they'll blow it all out of the water when it comes to comic companies and making movies. If only Marvel would learn patience, they would be good consistently rather than hit and miss.
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I am really excited for X-Men first class. I was a huge X-Men fan growing up, I know they changed a lot for the movie, but the comics changed a lot too. The trailers have gotten progressively better.

I was never into Thor, but I'll check it out for the Avengers connections. I think the Avengers could be really great, but I am biased. I want the movie to do well to help elevate Joss Whedon so he can bring back Firefry.

I want to see Edgar Wright's Ant-Man made. I think it could be something new.

FF and DD just did not do it for me. The DD directors cut was good and in many ways a totally different film but fell flat. I think a sequel is in order for DD and from what I read Affleck is still interested. I would personally like to see more of the Frank Miller influence in a DD movie though.

I think we do not see eye-to-eye on FF though. I think both lacked good casting and story.


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Caedus_16 wrote:
As for Iron Man, the first one was amazing, the second one was anti-climactic and disappointing.


I read a good review of the Iron Man films that I totally agree with - the villains in both movies were weak. I think that would have helped both movies. The first was great and the second was ok.


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Caedus_16 wrote:
Marvel is very hit and miss with their films. The Fantastic Four duology was awful, but they had some good films to. Spiderman 1 & 2 were great, but I was really really disappointed with 3. To the point of being done with the franchise. The new one, however, is starring a guy I trust as an actor and a director that I'm fond of so it should work out. As for Iron Man, the first one was amazing, the second one was anti-climactic and disappointing. When it comes to Thor, I'm psyched. Captain American doesn't look so good. The second attempt at a Hulk movie was alright, but then they replaced Ed Norton with Mark Ruffalo so I'm once again apathetic. Marvel has some of the best superhero films, but they are only so amazing in comparison to their horrific ones like Spidey 3, Fantastic 4 number 1, Hulk 1, and so on and so forth. Punisher 1 and 2 were kinda bad. I mean Marvel has potential but they crank out movies so fast. Personally the first 2 X-Men movies were great, but X3 was only ok and Wolverine was so awful that I considered taking up drugs to erase it as a memory. The new one looks fantastic, but I've been hurt before. I like DC better. They may not have as many good superheroes but they are learning how to space out their movies and take time to make them great. The new 2 Batman films, the upcoming Supernan film, and of course Green Lantern look great. I'm excited and I think they'll blow it all out of the water when it comes to comic companies and making movies. If only Marvel would learn patience, they would be good consistently rather than hit and miss.


Regarding the X-Men movies, I actually found Wolverine more enjoyable than X3. Good lord, I hate X3. [/i]
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Really? Wolverine annoyed the crap out of me. Hugh Jackman wandering around without his shirt for 2 hours in place of well thought out story didn't do it for me. They contradicted their other movies, he blew up the same helicopter twice, and to top it all off they ruined a few of the classic mutants and just threw others in with no regards as to why or with what purpose. To top it all off the first 3 X-Men movies were basically about Wolverine, why did we need this one? We didn't. They made it in place of the Magneto Origin movie that was supposed to come out, and frankly that would have been more interesting. Deadpool was just a pathetic destruction of what could have been a good character (though Ryan Reynolds was perfect for him if they'd done it right), Will.I.Am had NOOOO purpose in that movie, and Dominic Monaghan's character was wasted as well. Emma Frost was not Silverfox's sister...ugh...

X3 was not very good, I'll admit that. They pointlessly jammed mutants in and convoluted the plot which jammed the story, but Wolverine was just godawful...
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wookie_inked wrote:
THOR is just 9 days away now! I've been dying to see this movie since Kenneth Branaugh was announced as the director and the first still image of Chris Hemsworth in the Thor costume first showed up. I CANNOT WAIT TO SEE IT NEXT FRIDAY! http://www.comingsoon.net/news/movienews.php?id=74337 Yes I hate Natalie Portman but she is the ONLY mark against this movie and she's not a big enough issue to affect the opinion I form on the movie after I FINALLy get to see it. (I'm excited, can everyone tell?)


They did some web-marketing for Thor: http://www.joinshield.com/
Its really just an Acura ad but there are some videos up on the site if you complete the tasks and some prizes - like a movie pass.


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Caedus_16 wrote:
Really? Wolverine annoyed the crap out of me. Hugh Jackman wandering around without his shirt for 2 hours in place of well thought out story didn't do it for me. They contradicted their other movies, he blew up the same helicopter twice, and to top it all off they ruined a few of the classic mutants and just threw others in with no regards as to why or with what purpose. To top it all off the first 3 X-Men movies were basically about Wolverine, why did we need this one? We didn't. They made it in place of the Magneto Origin movie that was supposed to come out, and frankly that would have been more interesting. Deadpool was just a pathetic destruction of what could have been a good character (though Ryan Reynolds was perfect for him if they'd done it right), Will.I.Am had NOOOO purpose in that movie, and Dominic Monaghan's character was wasted as well. Emma Frost was not Silverfox's sister...ugh...

X3 was not very good, I'll admit that. They pointlessly jammed mutants in and convoluted the plot which jammed the story, but Wolverine was just godawful...


Wolverine was pointless, I agree. But I was able to get some enjoyment out of watching the mindless explosions. My eternal hatred of X3 comes from the following facts:

1) They killed Cyclops
2) They brought back Jean only to have her stand there the entire film looking blank. I would have been so much happier if they'd played up the split personality angle or something
3) They took Rogue's powers. Just....just....ugh.
4) They built up Angel with no payoff.
5) The "cure" was a decent plot point. They could have made an awesome movie with that. It annoys me that the potential was wasted. To me, Woliverine was never going to be more than it is.

The only thing I like about X3 was Magneto lifting the Golden Gate. That was pretty sweet.
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Caedus_16 wrote:
Really? Wolverine annoyed the crap out of me. Hugh Jackman wandering around without his shirt for 2 hours in place of well thought out story didn't do it for me. They contradicted their other movies, he blew up the same helicopter twice, and to top it all off they ruined a few of the classic mutants and just threw others in with no regards as to why or with what purpose. To top it all off the first 3 X-Men movies were basically about Wolverine, why did we need this one? We didn't. They made it in place of the Magneto Origin movie that was supposed to come out, and frankly that would have been more interesting. Deadpool was just a pathetic destruction of what could have been a good character (though Ryan Reynolds was perfect for him if they'd done it right), Will.I.Am had NOOOO purpose in that movie, and Dominic Monaghan's character was wasted as well. Emma Frost was not Silverfox's sister...ugh...

X3 was not very good, I'll admit that. They pointlessly jammed mutants in and convoluted the plot which jammed the story, but Wolverine was just godawful...


Agreed. It was horrible. Sabretooth was well cast though. Honestly the best part of the movie was the opening with Wolverine and Sabretooth throughout history. I think if the story had just focused on those two it would have been much much better.

Reynolds still wants to do a Deadpool spin-off. I think that has potential.


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1. While I agree with you about Cyclops, it was the actor's fault. He wanted to leave to go do Superman Returns so they killed him so he could be in both movies.

2. Jean DID just stand there!!! Thank you!!! So pointless!

3. Angel angered me. He was wasted, and as a kid he was my favorite.

4. Rogue took the cure, but as we saw by the ending it isn't permanent, nor is it even very strong considering Magneto took 4 doses and was still able to break through a little.

5. I honestly didn't like the cure story...
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Reynolds still wants to do a Deadpool spin-off. I think that has potential.


I thought he was excellent till I saw what they did with him in the end. If he'd broken the fourth wall I'd have finally gotten over my severe hatred for Ryan Reynolds.
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Reynolds still wants to do a Deadpool spin-off. I think that has potential.


I thought he was excellent till I saw what they did with him in the end. If he'd broken the fourth wall I'd have finally gotten over my severe hatred for Ryan Reynolds.


Well they could always ignore Origins and start fresh. Wink


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