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All I know is that neither Obama or Romney are the answer. There is another option, Gary Johnson. An unused vote is a truly wasted vote. It is time for some real change, vote Libertarian with me! http://www.garyjohnson2012.com/issues


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Ruhk Orikan wrote:
All I know is that neither Obama or Romney are the answer. There is another option, Gary Johnson. An unused vote is a truly wasted vote. It is time for some real change, vote Libertarian with me! http://www.garyjohnson2012.com/issues


Yeah, I am dissatisfied with Obama and I honestly think Romney won't do any better. I'll probably settle and vote for Johnson. I really can't find anything I starkly disagree with him on. Smile


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I can't vote in USA elections, but if I could, I'm pretty sure I'd not vote for someone whose offical site uses the non-word 'foundational'. ('Civil liberties are so foundational to America...'). How you can you be sure he can draft or understand the complex language of bills properly if he uses 'foundational' when it should be 'fundamental' ? Call me fussy, but I like my world leaders to have a solid grasp of their own language.


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Corellias Dream wrote:
How you can you be sure he can draft or understand the complex language of bills properly if he uses 'foundational' when it should be 'fundamental' ?


I think you are aiming too high. Currently, we are still trying to get our democratic lawmakers to even read the bills they are signing. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ACbwND52rrw

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Autobon wrote:
Corellias Dream wrote:
How you can you be sure he can draft or understand the complex language of bills properly if he uses 'foundational' when it should be 'fundamental' ?


I think you are aiming too high. Currently, we are still trying to get our democratic lawmakers to even read the bills they are signing. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ACbwND52rrw

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What do you think about Romney's running mate, Paul Ryan? Did Romney make a good choice? Is Ryan worth all the potential risk?
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What do you think about Romney's running mate, Paul Ryan? Did Romney make a good choice? Is Ryan worth all the potential risk?


I think Paul Ryan is a fantastic choice for Mitt Romney. I have been following Paul Ryan for years and he really comes across as genuine - he actually cares about the United States.

It is true that Paul Ryan leans more conservative then middle, but I think he will still appeal to moderates because he explains his points in plain English and does so in a calm and very respectful manner. Most importantly, he strives to change politics in a positive manner. This is evident for example when he is speaking with Obama - he is always highlighting areas they both agree on, as opposed to bashing his opponent.

The best thing about Paul Ryan though, is that the far-left hates him. As is already happening, they will run negative campaigns about Paul Ryan 'pushing grandma off a cliff" and such, and it will only backfire. People hate negative campaigning, which is why Obama keeps sliding in the polls the more he lies about Mitt Romney and Bain Capital. Hint- When Bill Clinton and many other influential democrats say Bain Capital did an amazing job, it starts to make Obama look pretty ridiculous when he continues the false attacks. If Obama continues his negative campaign and continues without any plan for America as he has been doing thus far, then the republicans might actually have a chance at winning.


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Autobon wrote:

The best thing about Paul Ryan though, is that the far-left hates him.


Just my two cents but I think this carries it's own equal risks. Attack ads aside it pretty much ensures no one left of center will vote for Romeny and you could have a repeat of McCain (where people hated Palin so much). Long run there is also the risk that if Congress falls firmly into the hands of Democrats they may stonewall everything Ryan goes near because they hate him similar to how Republicans are very resistant to Obama policies because they hate him. I can understand how leftists hating Ryan could be a strength but as the saying goes our greatest strength can also be our greatest weakness. Just my thoughts, no doubt we'll have a very interesting campaign season as we see whether it develops as a stregnth or weakness.

All in all though it should prove an interesting campaign but I'll be glad when it's over and we can go back to the political bickering minus the ads.
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I certainly agree that there is a risk Salaris, as both sides have been energized by Romney picking Ryan. However, I personally do not think we will see a "Palin-effect," so to speak, because the negativity surrounding Ryan is due to different reasons.

Ryan actually has a budget plan that he is very vocal and adamant about, which the left finds highly disagreeable. Palin on the other hand, invited backlash due to her fake and simplistic "macho" conservatism. The focus of this election though will obviously be about our debt crisis. I believe that many Americans are going to vote their wallet this year. With Obama trying to change the topic to various social issues, since his administration has a terrible record of adding to the debt, I think Ryan will pick up a lot of the independents.


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Hate to break the fun, but what do you think of Hollande, the French president. Some of the things he did. IDK, but it ain't all bull****. Like the Golden Rule is. I hope we won't be for this constitutional BS. Remember if you Yanks, can't forget of the certain amendments, why woul'd us evropeans change our constitutions (basic rules of Countries). They are well written and don't mention money much. The best constitution is that of the UK. (They don' really have one).


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Sen. Todd Akin should have kept his mouth shut and not made the comments he did. That and his refusal to withdraw from the Senate race may seriously hurt Republicans this fall. I had hoped that the GOP might be able to win the White House and the Senate this fall, but after that blundering fool's comments, I'm not very optimistic.


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Alan Skywalker V wrote:
Sen. Todd Akin should have kept his mouth shut and not made the comments he did.


I find it to be a testament to just how badly Republicans lost the culture war. I mean, yes, Todd Akin said something really stupid, but lets look at this. Todd Akin believes you should never murder an innocent child, but he says the wrong thing to defend the correct position. This of course is not the first time Todd Akin has said something ridiculous, so maybe it is his time to hit the road. On the other hand though, you have Obama who supports partial birth abortion. I mean seriously, that is even disgusting to the overwhelming majority of pro-abortion advocates, yet he gets zero flack for it. It is not ever brought up.

This is exactly why this race is going to be so close. Obama and the Democrats have a media that ignores almost everything they do wrong, while looking for anything even remotely damaging to plaster on the front page about Republicans. A case in point being the entire news cycle today portraying the Republicans as doomed due to some random politician from Missouri. Honestly...

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Autobon wrote:
This is exactly why this race is going to be so close. Obama and the Democrats have a media that ignores almost everything they do wrong, while looking for anything even remotely damaging to plaster on the front page about Republicans. A case in point being the entire news cycle today portraying the Republicans as doomed due to some random politician from Missouri. Honestly...

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Dude, do you watch FOX? I'm pretty sure they represent the exact opposite of "a media that ignores everything [Obama does] wrong."
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Taral-DLOS wrote:
Dude, do you watch FOX? I'm pretty sure they represent the exact opposite of "a media that ignores everything [Obama does] wrong."


Fox news might have its own bias, but there is still CNN, MSNBC (by far the worst), ABC, CBS, and so forth.

Mostly it is the double standard that gets me though. I still remember, for example, the media going gleefully insane over a story of Romney allegedly bullying some gay kid in school. Turns out there was zero complaints about the incident from the alleged victim and he passed away decades before. His sister even came out and said the story was factually incorrect and it turns out the so-called witness never even saw or heard of any pranks (as Washington Post fabricated and then corrected later without any acknowledgement to readers). This kind of stuff happens all the time, meanwhile, the media wont touch Obama's shady history (Rezko, Ayers, Wright, etc.) with a ten foot poll.


(edit - not sure why I wrote CNBC... meant CBS)


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