The Politics Thread

I do try to watch MSNBC and Fox News in order to get my fair and balance does of propaganda, but I was a little surprise this morning when all MSNBC wanted to talk about was the stupid binders thing (which is an internet joke, not something newsworthy) and Fox was talking about how the guy for the Libya attack may now be known. Has CNN or MSNBC covered that yet? I know they both are left wing news organizations, but I would've thought something like that would be important enough for them to cover. Surely they're not being that overprotective of the President.
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In response to my earlier frustration about the democrats going insane over Romney's irrelevant "binders full of women" comment, I now have to point out how hypocritical the Republicans are behaving.

If you are following the news cycle today, Obama is getting absolutely ripped to shreds over his comment about the four American deaths in Libya not being "optimal." (not on MSNBC, though, since they would never post anything against Obama) If you actually watch the Daily Show episode in which Obama makes this comment, it is not at all inappropriate - in context. He meant no disrespect.

I just find it sad that our society relies on soundbites to score political points - both sides are guilty. We need to focus on real issues.

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EUC Staff Joined: 15 Sep 2010 Posts: 1137 Location: Kansas

^^Good to know.

Also, with the Libya thing, it's not a matter of corruption, but incompetence, as far as the administration would be concerned.
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Master Joined: 09 Jun 2009 Posts: 1417

Idk how justified the charge of incompetence is considering it was the Republican vote in congress that cut the budget for embassy defense.

Oh yeah found this. It's good for a laugh.

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Master Joined: 09 Jun 2009 Posts: 1417

Even if Obama knew without a shadow of a doubt that the Libya attack was solely a terrorist attack, and then purposely set an agenda for his people to go on and insinuate that the video was a factor and to play down the role of terrorism in the attack, I wouldn't call that corruption, even though it would technically be within the boundaries of the definition.

In my opinion, in comes off more misguided than anything. I could see Obama wanting to put a spin on the news to try to soften it. He's in full campaign mode. He's not going to want news of a terrorist attack on 9/11 happening on his watch to be plastered all across the country when he's running for re-election. He may have gotten Bin Laden, but I wouldn't be surprised if the majority of Americans would still feel safer with a different Commander in Chief.

All that said, I think it's interesting what some of the news channels are covering leading up to this next debate on foreign policy. MSNBC is focusing on Romney's lack of foreign relations experience and his reliance on former Bush advisers. They're touting him as a continuation of the Bush administration in terms of foreign policy. Whether true or not, it's a very good attack angle.

Fox news on the other hand is focusing on Libya and how Obama took two weeks for his administration to come out and say it was a terrorist attack, and how he has, in general, acted poorly on the issue.

Romney certainly doesn't have the foreign relations experience that Obama has, but then again, Obama didn't have that experience when he started the job. To criticize Romney's lack of experience (by itself, excluding the ex-Bush advisers) is to admit that Obama's lack of experience four years ago was a serious liability. Yet if you support Obama's foreign relations track record, you are in part admitting that a President with zero foreign relations experience can do a good job. Thus Mitt could do a good job even with zero foreign relations experience.

The crux of the matter is that Obama, at this point in time, has experience, and people are worried about what sort of agenda and advisers Romney would have. We have a general idea where Obama stands on foreign policy (and I'm going to get opinionated here so feel free to address this part specifically): he's an apologist, he's more open minded to our enemies than our allies, and he's timid when comes to being Commander in Chief.
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Master Joined: 09 Jun 2009 Posts: 1417

The Salt Lake Tribune, Utah's largest newspaper, just endorsed Obama for president.

http://is.gd/UEvekR
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Not sure if this belongs in the gender or political thread, but I will just put it here

So it turns out, when Obama tried to turn women against Romney by claiming that Planned Parenthood offered breast cancer examinations (Romney wants to end taxpayer funding for PP) - he completely lied.

From Live Action News - (here is a video to go along with their story)

Master Joined: 09 Jun 2009 Posts: 1417

Funny, I'm a woman and I don't feel at all demeaned or patronized by the Obama administration.

Romney, on the other hand...yeah, binders.

And just because you don't see anything wrong with the binders full of women remark, doesn't mean others aren't or shouldn't be offended by it.

But I'm probably most offended by the fact that Romney wants the right to tell me what I can and can't do with my body, and what my insurance will or won't cover.

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