General New Jedi Order Era Disscusion Thread

Last edited by Aush on Wed Sep 14, 2011 8:00 pm; edited 1 time in total

Created to continue a discussion from What EU Book are You Reading Now thread.

For Crash Override's last comment, I would place blame on Anakin for turning on Centerpoint Station since he was the only known person capable of doing it. But I can understand his hesitation and resistance to firing the station. Conquest would be my prime example of Anakin's hesitation being strengthened. Of course, if the fleet had been eliminated, then that may also have opened up the Yuuzhan Vong for more discussion. They only believed the galaxy was handed to them from their gods and once enough resistance got them doubting, then they'd be less sure of conquest.

War is hard to place rights and wrongs on, but for how the rebels beat the Empire, Yuuzhan Vong beat the New Republic, and how the GFFA beat the Yuuzhan Vong is all from the controlling force being stretched too thin. Always good strategy to give enough for enemy to strangle themselves with.
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Knight Joined: 25 Jun 2011 Posts: 121

Of course Centerpoint was activated in order to make an interdiction field to trap the Vong at Corella. Even if he fired it, would it really be wrong. They weren't trying to destroy a planet or star, they were just using it as a really, really big gun against a military target, the enemy fleet. If it is wrong, were does the line fall that the power of a weapon becomes immorally powerful? Is it wrong if it kills 1000 enemy warships? 500? 100? 50? 20? 10? 5? 2? Were is the line that says that it is OK to fire this big of a gun at the enemy but not this sightly bigger gun?
And the firing of Centerpoint occurred in Jedi Eclipse, not conquest.
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Master Joined: 22 Dec 2010 Posts: 1801 Location: Carcosa

Personally I think Anakin should have pulled the trigger. That was a combat situation and he would have been completely in the right to wipe out that Vong fleet with Centerpoint Station. Having not done it, many innocent livers were lost as Sal Solo mangled the shot and wiped out half the Hapans.

With Centerpoint, many many many lives could have been saved. By the end of the war, most of the Vong warriors probably died anyways in suicide attacks.
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It's a slippery slope. If Thrackan didn't disable it when he fired it, the desire to fire it again would have arisen again and again. And there's no evidence that Anakin was correct that he could have surgically eliminated the Yuuzhan Vong fleet while leaving the Hapan fleet unscathed. He only thought he could.

Knight Joined: 08 Apr 2011 Posts: 396

But sometimes Jedi decide to put innocent people in danger in order to achieve a bigger end. So, why shouldn't Anakin have done it?

Knight Joined: 25 Jun 2011 Posts: 121

But whatever happened that disabled Centerpoint didn't necessarily happen because of who fired it. It could have just been a mechanical problem with a one million year old space station.
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Master Joined: 22 Dec 2010 Posts: 1801 Location: Carcosa

I don't think that "the heat of battle" is a good excuse. A good leader has to be able to make decisions on the fly utilizing the knowledge and intelligence they have on hand. Anakin decided against firing Centerpoint because of the pacifist opinions of Jacen who'd been nagging him for several books about how the Jedi should be hesitant to be warriors and aggressors.

Now I'm not saying Anakin was completely in the wrong, but he was definitely partially in the wrong. He may not have been able to see that Sal Solo would momentarily be killing thousands of innocent Hapans, but he should have known that taking out a Vong fleet would save lives. That was the short term picture he should have been considering. Instead of utilizing Centerpoint, he left it up to everyone else to deal with the problem and to spend their lives in stopping the Vong.
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Reviving this thread to discuss about what coulda been NJO:

Master Joined: 15 Apr 2008 Posts: 4421 Location: Korriban

That sounds interesting but after re-reading the current NJO state I'm pleased with it. In the last decade it was the best EU we've gotten.
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