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  Crash Override
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Reepicheep wrote:
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Del Rey requested "Last of the Jedi" not be used in an upcoming interview with Maya Kaathryn Bohnhoff.

Because *gasp* Jax Pavan is not the last Jedi! Not even close. Rolling Eyes


Well, Revelation didn't have a revelation, Invincible didn't have Jacen or whatever invincible, Vortex didn't have a vortex, I doubt Apocalypse is going to have an apocalypse. Star Wars isn't really known for having good titles lately or even ones descriptive of the actual book.

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And Last of the Jedi was a YA series written by Jude Watson. It's a bit too confusing to also have a book title The Last Jedi..


Evidently the original title was Jedi Dawn but it was changed because an obscure Choose Your Own Adventure book starring Havet Storm that was published in the UK only had that title. And even then, it's similar to Dawn of the Jedi.

I think it's obligated for a certain percentage of SW titles have either "Jedi" or "Force" in them.

As for my least favorite novel, I'm removing Children of the Jedi, Planet of Twilight, and The Crystal Star from my list. The character derailment of LOTF gets it the nod collectively, but I guess I'll specifically pick Invincible for being a terrible conclusion in general and for killing Jacen rather than redeeming him.


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Well, Revelation didn't have a revelation


I always thought that the revelation was 1. when Jacen told Shevu that he was a Sith; and 2. when Han and Leia learned that Allana was Jacen's daughter. They weren't revelations to us, but they were to the characters. And I wouldn't count out Apocalypse yet - Star Wars has destroyed plenty of planets (Alderaan, Carida, etc).
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Does anyone think the following about Apocalypse?

1 A planet will be destroyed to rival Alderaan and Carida

2 The bad guys and girls win
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Well they can't blow up any planets that showed up in the Legacy comics so Coruscant and Tatooine are safe. Not really sure if Abeloth would have a grudge against any planets unless the Jedi were hiding there.

As for the badguys winning...possibly. There would have to be huge revelation with Abeloth in order to make an impact, assuming they didn't kill her. Aside from that, with the Big 3 safe, I'm not sure how the badguys could win. I doubt the Sith are going to conquer the galaxy.
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I can't see the 'bad guys' winning on a galactic scale, but I suppose there are other ways of winning besides just taking over the galaxy.
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Darth Skuldren wrote:
Well they can't blow up any planets that showed up in the Legacy comics so Coruscant and Tatooine are safe. Not really sure if Abeloth would have a grudge against any planets unless the Jedi were hiding there.


Don't forget Ossus. They can't blow that up, either.
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Crash Override wrote:
I'll specifically pick Invincible for being a terrible conclusion in general and for killing Jacen rather than redeeming him.


No redemption works better for me.

There should be some risk involved in turning to the dark side. As in, the risk of not getting a happy ending.

Redemption used to be considered a rare thing.

Redeeming Jacen would make it look like there's a get-out-of-jail-free card for anyone who turns.


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Arawn_Fenn wrote:
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I'll specifically pick Invincible for being a terrible conclusion in general and for killing Jacen rather than redeeming him.


No redemption works better for me.

There should be some risk involved in turning to the dark side. As in, the risk of not getting a happy ending.

Redemption used to be considered a rare thing.

Redeeming Jacen would make it look like there's a get-out-of-jail-free card for anyone who turns.


That's a good point you make there. They can't keep redeeming every Jedi who turns, but on the other hand we would still have had Jacen around so I understand why people would have rather seen a redemption happen.
I for one don't know if redeeming Jacen would have been better, but I think not.
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Arawn_Fenn wrote:
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I'll specifically pick Invincible for being a terrible conclusion in general and for killing Jacen rather than redeeming him.


No redemption works better for me.

There should be some risk involved in turning to the dark side. As in, the risk of not getting a happy ending.

Redemption used to be considered a rare thing.

Redeeming Jacen would make it look like there's a get-out-of-jail-free card for anyone who turns.

Totally agree. If a piece of art breaks our heart, it's usually a good thing.
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Arawn_Fenn wrote:
Crash Override wrote:
I'll specifically pick Invincible for being a terrible conclusion in general and for killing Jacen rather than redeeming him.


No redemption works better for me.

There should be some risk involved in turning to the dark side. As in, the risk of not getting a happy ending.

Redemption used to be considered a rare thing.

Redeeming Jacen would make it look like there's a get-out-of-jail-free card for anyone who turns.


I believe that redeeming him would have ruined it, but he was too short lived as a villain. I think he would have made an astounding dark lord and it would have made the whole "Lightning Rod of Attention" thing the One Sith talk about in Legacy comics make more sense. He was meant to distract attention from them, so wouldn't it have made more sense if he was around to be evil longer?
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That just raises the point that the whole series was stupid by derailing Jacen's characterization from the start. And if redeeming him at the end weakens the story then don't even do that story, because killing off your main protagonist after derailing the character and dragging him through the mud isn't endearing to readers. I get that they were out of story ideas and decided to just rehash the prequels, but I imagine part of the reason why Anakin "worked" was because the audience already accepted Vader as a villain and knew it was coming.

I can't imagine that Star Wars would have been as successful if Luke became Vader at the end of Return of the Jedi and then died.


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With the Sith in control of the galaxy by the time of the legacy comics does anyone think that Apocalypse or a forthcoming story will sow the seeds for this as I felt in parts that was what was happening in FOTJ?
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In a way, I hope not. I was a little worried about their inclusion in LOTF, even though it was brief (in Crosscurrent and Riptide I view it as more forgiveable, since it's not in the main series) since it was a little too early, and introduces something from a comic series that has no direct (as yet) link to that line of books. I know that sounds ridiculous, given the amount of crossover in the past, but I view that as acceptable, since they're in the immediate time frame. To introduce something that, even though it may be happening in the 'now', it's not in the centre for another 100 years or so, is unfair.
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Just let me see the beginning of the Fel Empire, and I'll be happy. (If it already happened in Ascension, please don't tell me, I haven't read it yet)
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