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Jeeeeeesus! Hadn't even thought of that! What are the in universe dates for Plagueis? Was it meant to be going on during TCW? Or are you talking about something else?
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DannikJerriko wrote:
Jeeeeeesus! Hadn't even thought of that! What are the in universe dates for Plagueis? Was it meant to be going on during TCW? Or are you talking about something else?


Plagueis will take place in the time leading up to Episode I but I actually think he's still alive till around the time of TCW so maybe actually.
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A preview of this book somehow ended up on Amazon. I read the first two pages and stopped; I thought I was going to throw up.

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SO disappointed. TCW has screwed Maul so much I can't take it anymore. Now that influence is creeping elsewhere! Needless to say this is NOT a book I will be picking up, and I'm seriously considering junking TCW as well. I kept going back and forth on the issue before finally deciding to accept TCW, but now, with this pathetic excuse for a book that clearly shows TCW's influence, I have lost my grudging respect for the show.


Interesting. Just wait till you read Darth Plagueis.....


I'm goint to assume that you mean that Plageus changes a lot of what we "thought" was going on. Now I think logical changes to things, or learning the background behind events we didn't completely understand is quite fine.

For example, TCW adding Oppress (Opress, Oppres?) and heightening the conflict between Dooku and Ventress is great. It ties into the later occurences in Obsession (specifically Ventress's defection) quite well.

But bringing back a guy who is obviously very dead. Intended to be dead. WIthout any realistic way he could have survived. Mostly for kicks and giggles. Is annoying. I doubt that this will have a purpose to it other than "ZOMGS Moar Darth Maulzzzzz!!!"

Just...no.
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Jeeeeeesus! Hadn't even thought of that! What are the in universe dates for Plagueis? Was it meant to be going on during TCW? Or are you talking about something else?


Plagueis will take place in the time leading up to Episode I but I actually think he's still alive till around the time of TCW so maybe actually.


What makes you think that?

I can't see Palpatine training not one but two apprentices of his own without there being issues between them.
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Caedus_16 wrote:
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Jeeeeeesus! Hadn't even thought of that! What are the in universe dates for Plagueis? Was it meant to be going on during TCW? Or are you talking about something else?


Plagueis will take place in the time leading up to Episode I but I actually think he's still alive till around the time of TCW so maybe actually.


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Relying on you guys for info, The Wook has tripped over.

Henning, who is the other Apprentice? And wasn't Palpy in favour of TRoT?
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Technically this doesn't screw anything up; people just don't like it.


You misunderstand. I don't care about continuity, I just think it's utterly stupid. And it is.


I doubt he's going to have this six legged droid chassis in TCW. They're described as makeshift. I don't plan on reading this book since it's a young adult thing, so it doesn't really bother me that he has six legs in it.

I don't really think there's a connection to TCW besides Maul's survival.
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If there's anything strange in Darth Plagueis, I frankly admit I'll probably overlook it since I've been waiting for this book a long time. Wrath of Darth Maul, on the other hand, is just ... blech.

Edit: On the subject of the YA books, I do read JA, JQ, Last of the Jedi, and Boba Fett. Haven't read RF, JJK or YJK yet; I probably will and some point though. Jedi Prince ... I'll probably pass on it, due to the continuity issues. These Windham books I don't feel the need to read unless there's a significant amount of new material in them.

Any YA books I'm forgetting?

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DannikJerriko wrote:
Jeeeeeesus! Hadn't even thought of that! What are the in universe dates for Plagueis? Was it meant to be going on during TCW? Or are you talking about something else?


I'm not allowed to discuss the book though. I will say that it doesn't cross into episode 2. But that's all I can hint at.

When I saw Maul on the back cover for Darth Plagueis I was excited. But the book made me stop and think about how much I love Maul and I had to do some re learning if you feel me.
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Darth_Henning wrote:
Caedus_16 wrote:
DannikJerriko wrote:
Jeeeeeesus! Hadn't even thought of that! What are the in universe dates for Plagueis? Was it meant to be going on during TCW? Or are you talking about something else?


Plagueis will take place in the time leading up to Episode I but I actually think he's still alive till around the time of TCW so maybe actually.


What makes you think that?

I can't see Palpatine training not one but two apprentices of his own without there being issues between them.



You'll love it. I feel.

Wrath of Maul- I look forward to it. If it gets the same "Canon" status as Darth Plagueis we'll be fine. If it doesn't I'm going to enjoy it till the continuity shifts AGAIN then say MEH.
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illogicalRogue2 wrote:
DannikJerriko wrote:
Jeeeeeesus! Hadn't even thought of that! What are the in universe dates for Plagueis? Was it meant to be going on during TCW? Or are you talking about something else?


I'm not allowed to discuss the book though. I will say that it doesn't cross into episode 2. But that's all I can hint at.

When I saw Maul on the back cover for Darth Plagueis I was excited. But the book made me stop and think about how much I love Maul and I had to do some re learning if you feel me.


Ah, say no more, say no more. A nudge is as good as a wink to a blind bat.
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I'm going to assume that you mean that Plageus changes a lot of what we "thought" was going on. Now I think logical changes to things, or learning the background behind events we didn't completely understand is quite fine.


You're on track. It's a mind blowing story! But the again I find ALL Sith POV stories to be. lol
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Henning, who is the other Apprentice? And wasn't Palpy in favour of TRoT?


Everything I've ever seen of Palpatine suggested he was. That's what bugs me about this book.

My reference to two apprentices was the basis of my disbelief that the book could run TCW - Maul and Dooku. It has to end before then, and I would assume before episode I....or at least I thought so until I read:

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I will say that it doesn't cross into episode 2. But that's all I can hint at.

When I saw Maul on the back cover for Darth Plagueis I was excited. But the book made me stop and think about how much I love Maul and I had to do some re learning if you feel me.


This worries me a lot. The idea of Maul being trained while Plagueis is still alive is going to drive me crazy until I read the book. I hope that's not the case, but I don't know how else he'd make a cover.

Sigh. Not promising. This revent obsession with Maul is ridiculous IMHO.


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I doubt he's going to have this six legged droid chassis in TCW. They're described as makeshift. I don't plan on reading this book since it's a young adult thing, so it doesn't really bother me that he has six legs in it.

I don't really think there's a connection to TCW besides Maul's survival.


Is there a particular reason you don't read the cannon young-adult novels? Some of them do have semi-decent stories in them.

And I'm sure it will connect to TCW in smoe way. The others in that series all have connected to a lot of other media.
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It's already been established that Palpatine was training Maul before Plagueis was dead; at least, in order for there to be any ambiguity concerning Anakin's origin.
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illogicalRogue2 wrote:
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DannikJerriko wrote:
Jeeeeeesus! Hadn't even thought of that! What are the in universe dates for Plagueis? Was it meant to be going on during TCW? Or are you talking about something else?


Plagueis will take place in the time leading up to Episode I but I actually think he's still alive till around the time of TCW so maybe actually.


What makes you think that?

I can't see Palpatine training not one but two apprentices of his own without there being issues between them.



You'll love it. I feel.

Wrath of Maul- I look forward to it. If it gets the same "Canon" status as Darth Plagueis we'll be fine. If it doesn't I'm going to enjoy it till the continuity shifts AGAIN then say MEH.


I assume you mean both cannon?


You've known me (and my tastes) long enough that i find that slightly reassuring. Anything that might send me wildly off the deep end? (ie yes or no, no details required)


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I'm going to assume that you mean that Plageus changes a lot of what we "thought" was going on. Now I think logical changes to things, or learning the background behind events we didn't completely understand is quite fine.


You're on track. It's a mind blowing story! But the again I find ALL Sith POV stories to be. lol


i figured that's what would happen when they announced this. Should be interesting.



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It's already been established that Palpatine was training Maul before Plagueis was dead; at least, in order for there to be any ambiguity concerning Anakin's origin.


I've never seen an official reference to that outside fan speculation. Source me please?
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The NEC said that Sidious trained Maul in secret away from Plagueis, but I'm not sure whether to take the NEC at face value or not.
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