The Wrath of Darth Maul

Master Joined: 22 Dec 2010 Posts: 1850

Darth Maul was raised by Palpatine, and not on Iridonia.

If people are really upset over George Lucas contradicting a single sentence in the New Essential Chronology, the result of which is... nothing, I don't recommend that they read the original Essential Chronology which is now out of print.

I don't really see much use for the "sourcebooks" that don't have any narrative. I think a narrative will always trump these "fact books," and that they keep publishing the same ones over and over shows how long they remain accurate.
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Knight Joined: 12 Apr 2011 Posts: 386 Location: Canada

Master Joined: 22 Dec 2010 Posts: 1850

Knight Joined: 12 Apr 2011 Posts: 386 Location: Canada

I don't think any of us were saying "ZOMGZ it ruins the story" but the fast that it IS such a non-issue brings up more the question, why couldn't Lucas (or whoever was writing that sentence of dialogue) take 5 seconds, check what the birthplace was, and then use the SAME one, rather than change it for no reason at all.

Take other examples:

Ryloth in TCW - for years it was established that half the planet is baked with sun, half is in constant darkness with a very narrow habitable zone. Yet in TCW its shown to have day and night. Why did they have to show things at night? Show the exact same scenes, in late-afternoon twilight in the exact same way, with the exact same plot, and there's no annoying contradiction. Unnecessary immaterial change. So why the change?

Death of Master Piell in TCW - he was already shown to have died in Coruscant Nights. Replace with different Jedi master (heck, use the same species for all I care). Use same plot. No change to the point of the story, no unnecessary contraction. So why use THAT character? Especially since it was his only appearance.

So many of the problems in TCW should be exactly what you say, nonissues - if LFL took 10 minutes per episode to check that things didn't contradict needlessly. But because they don't, it becomes a problem that has to be explained as to WHY the contradictions exist.

Master Joined: 22 Dec 2010 Posts: 1850

Darth Maul's origin from Dathomir is kind of important to the story on TCW.

Are you suggesting they should just scrap the story with the Nightsisters and all that because of one sentence in the essential guide?

This is why continuity is stupid.
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"Trust not the words of a poet, as he is born to seduce. Yet for poetry to seize the heart, it must ring with the chimes of truth.”

“The world is understood through metaphors. Language is a metaphor-system. Mathematics is a metaphor-system. All real-world schools of magic and religion revolve around the understanding of vast metaphor-systems, symbols as they relate to concepts."

"See, the thing is, everything everyone tells you is a lie. The truth is always bigger than the words we use to describe it."

Knight Joined: 18 Nov 2011 Posts: 442

I dont know too much about the book other then waht people have said so heres a theory.

Plageuis is alive during TPM, he is unaware of Maul and its possible Plageuis meets his end in the years between TPM and AOTC.

Perhaps shortly after TPM.
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Knight Joined: 10 Apr 2011 Posts: 436

Already made my feelings clear about this bantha poodoo. Wink

Still, if anyone else gets it, I won't get upset.

Knight Joined: 18 Nov 2011 Posts: 442

Count me out on this. I dont want Maul as a character to be ruined and I fear this will ruin him so no.
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EUC Staff Joined: 09 Nov 2011 Posts: 1204 Location: Nirn

No way I'm getting this.

All of our arguments raise one single point;

Why? There is no explanation or reason or sensible argument for this. There arre no words. Except the ones we've all said. And are going to say. But apart from them. There are no words.

Anyway, nothing we can do. George want, George get. Or just some stupid author who's never read a single line of EU.
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Knight Joined: 18 Nov 2011 Posts: 442

To my mind the book never happened. Thats how strongly I feel about Maul, one of the few good things to come from TPM.
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