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Do you know a Star Wars language?
Aurebesh
85%
 85%  [ 6 ]
Mandoa
14%
 14%  [ 1 ]
Huttese
0%
 0%  [ 0 ]
Other
0%
 0%  [ 0 ]
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  Vestara
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I'm curious to know how many people actually know a language.
I learnt Aurebesh so I could keep a diary that no one could read an I'm learning Mandoa for fun.
I've put what I think are the main three languages that people have learnt. If anyone has learnt any others please post what they are.
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I know Aurebesh (which is the alphabet, not the language), and know some Mando'a, but I've not really made much of an effort with Mando'a.
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I haven't. How long does it take to read and write Aurebesh fluently?
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Are Mando'a and Huttese really full-on languages though? I know that numerous terms were constructed, and loose grammars were made (which, oddly enough, mirrored English almost perfectly), but I didn't think enough was done to call them languages.

This is in opposition to Klingon, or Elvish, where I understand a lot more was done. Unique grammar, full dictionaries, etc.
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I want to learn Mando'a and/or Huttese, but I don't know where. The Wook has a pretty good page but doesn't give a great amount of info inn grammar and tenses and stuff.
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Taral-DLOS wrote:
Are Mando'a and Huttese really full-on languages though? I know that numerous terms were constructed, and loose grammars were made (which, oddly enough, mirrored English almost perfectly), but I didn't think enough was done to call them languages.

This is in opposition to Klingon, or Elvish, where I understand a lot more was done. Unique grammar, full dictionaries, etc.


I don't know about Huttese, but I don't think Mando'a can be called a full-on language. Or at least one that is workable in real life. I've heard of people who can converse in it fluently, day to day, but I can't. I can only learn a few phrases.

Dannik, I was going to say that Karen Traviss' website has details on grammar and stuff like that (including a full list of words) but I can't find it now.
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Reepicheep wrote:
I haven't. How long does it take to read and write Aurebesh fluently?


Not long. A few days, maybe.
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Life Is The Path wrote:
Reepicheep wrote:
I haven't. How long does it take to read and write Aurebesh fluently?


Not long. A few days, maybe.


Yeah, I'd think so too. It's on Wookieepedia, and it's pretty easy once you've got the hang of it.
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I'm not entirely sure if huttese is a full language but I know someone who has learnt it so I guess it kinda is.
Mandoa is about as full a language as you can get for Star Wars. Here is the official website: http://www.karentraviss.com/page20/page26/index.html
I know Aurebesh is only an alphabet but I included it anyway.
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You see, I just had a look at the Mando'a dictionary, and it contained less than 1200 words.

According to wikipedia, the Oxford English Dictionary contains 250,000 words, and that doesn't include scientific/technical terminology.

A true language needs to have enough words to be able to account for any circumstance. Doctors working in the field. Scientists in the lab. Random dialogue as if written by Whedon or Tarantino, which could go into any topic known to man.

Even Klingon has about 3,000 words, more than twice as Mando'a (and has an official ISO designation as a language).

So that's my POV.
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Vestara wrote:
I learnt Aurebesh so I could keep a diary that no one could read...


See, that's funny. My sister and I both learned to read and write in Aurebesh (as did Padme, I believe) so we could send notes back and forth that no one could read. I've lost the ability at this point (as in I have to think long and hard about what something says), but I'm sure I could pick it back up fairly quickly if I devoted the time.
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I did learn it, as well. I used to be able to write and read it easily, but I haven't used it in so long, it's more difficult for me now.
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Taral-DLOS wrote:
You see, I just had a look at the Mando'a dictionary, and it contained less than 1200 words.

According to wikipedia, the Oxford English Dictionary contains 250,000 words, and that doesn't include scientific/technical terminology.

A true language needs to have enough words to be able to account for any circumstance. Doctors working in the field. Scientists in the lab. Random dialogue as if written by Whedon or Tarantino, which could go into any topic known to man.

Even Klingon has about 3,000 words, more than twice as Mando'a (and has an official ISO designation as a language).

So that's my POV.


I don't think the number of words has so much to do with it, so much as workable grammar and adaptability does. Esperanto and Toki Pona had very few root words to begin with (less than Mando'a does now), and they were considered as languages from the beginning. As I said, I haven't made that big an effort to learn it, so I can't be sure, but that people can converse in it lends me to believe that it can be considered a language, because it apparently has a workable grammar.
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The best languages are the ones with fewer words. Much easier to understand. I mean, look at binary: one, zero. That's it. Great language. Laughing
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I can read the aurebesh, but not as good as I used to.
If I don't use it for a while the knowledge is kinda pushed back in my mind and tends to rust a little but it's still there. Smile

As for Mando'a and Huttese, Mando'a is a real language I think, but with precious few words. I haven't learned it, because I already had enough trouble with learning real world languages so I didn't want to bother with this just for kicks.

Huttese isn't a real language (yet), just a collection of words and phrases.
But there are some real cool words and phrases there and if it where a working language I would be tempted to learn it.
For now I'll just use the Huttese expressions I like.
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