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Hopefully this is the best place to post this theory for the ST. Since it involves rumors for Ep.VII, I'll format it as spoilers.

I emailed it to the guys at The Force Cast, but haven't gotten any kind of response from them. I'm eager to hear what others think. I have told two of my gaming buddies and they both think it sounds plausible, but neither of them are really EU fans/readers...so....here it goes:

I have been thinking about the revealed names. I can say that I'm not crazy about them, but I did have an idea that I wanted to share with you. I doubt I'm even close to the truth, but it was fun to think about.

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I'd love to hear your thoughts on this.


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I think it's a fantastic connection. Spoilers for further discussion.

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Thanks for the comments Mara and Reep!

I understand what you mean about a
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reveal. My "theory" was born out of my hatred of the whole idea of
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and a strong belief that there will be connections of some sort to the EU.


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The only problem I can see is that we already had that reveal in the OT. The rumored one is at least original and hard-hitting.
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Maybe this should be moved to the Ep.VII discussions, since it's more about plot theories and doesn't really have a place in Legends to Canon.

I don't mind, but I like the idea of the original thread and it holds up better if we can just keep it a list of those things instead of having them be mixed in with theory discussion.
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Dog-Poop_Walker wrote:
Maybe this should be moved to the Ep.VII discussions, since it's more about plot theories and doesn't really have a place in Legends to Canon.

I don't mind, but I like the idea of the original thread and it holds up better if we can just keep it a list of those things instead of having them be mixed in with theory discussion.


DP, I think you may be right. Could a moderator move my post from Fri Jan 09, 2015 10:34 am and ones following down to this one to the Ep.VII discussion/speculation section?

Hopefully, this time next year we can be discussing how Jaina and Jacen were brought over from Legends to Canon. Wink


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I was not able to merge this with any existing thread, due to the nature in which the site works. But I was able to make a new thread. With that in mind, I've decided to classify this as a speculation thread, specifically dedicated to theories and such. The Episode VII in 2015 [spoiler thread] thread will remain for actual facts. That is the best way I can think to split them.

So speculate away! Smile
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Thanks, Mara!


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I'll elaborate on why I'm so against Luke Skywalker being the villain in the ST. Luke Skywalker is the Sir Galahad of this franchise. Luke isn't his father. He succeeds where his father failed. No matter how hard he's pushed, no matter what he's put through, he'll always do the right thing. The moment when Luke throws away his lightsaber and refuses to give into evil whatever the consequences, along with Vader's subsequent redemption, is the most powerful and defining moment in the entire Saga in my opinion. Luke Skywalker will never turn to the dark side. The Emperor has failed. Luke Skywalker is a Jedi like his father before him. Period.

If Luke did turn to the dark side, there are pretty much two options: 1) He'll die a villain or 2) He'll be redeemed. I have a hard time believing they actually would go with option one, but if they did I would refuse to recognize it as any sort of canon, would sell my ST movies (I probably would have bought VII and VIII, because Luke's fate likely wouldn't be known until IX), and have nothing to do with future new canon products. EU forever.

But! I would bet money that option two would happen if Luke turns to the dark side. Luke would be redeemed before the end of the ST. Isn't that a tad repetitive though? Haven't we already been here? What's going to happen twenty years from now - are we going to have a new trilogy about a new hero redeeming a fallen Rey? Rolling Eyes
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I don't like Dark Luke either, but didn't Lucas supposedly approve of Dark Empire? So that idea might not be as far fetched as it seems.
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Dog-Poop_Walker wrote:
I don't like Dark Luke either, but didn't Lucas supposedly approve of Dark Empire? So that idea might not be as far fetched as it seems.


Back then, GL "approved" most of what happened in the EU. He also kept certain things off limits...later removing those limits. GL changed his mind so many times it made you head hurt. I think what happened was that people that loved the DE story also knew that GL liked comics more than books (in general). GL probably saw and maybe even read the DE comics, but probably didn't read the HttE trilogy books. Then again, GL always claimed that the books and comics (i.e. the EU) was not "his" story, but someone else's story using his characters/universe. I somehow doubt that he'd develop a story that similar to DE and call it "his". It'd be like one singer taking someone else's song and saying it was their song....not that that doesn't happen. Wink


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Sure, I doubt that Lucas read it and said, "that's a good idea!" and then wrote the script based on that...what I'm talking about is that Lucas had some ideas for SW sequels back in the day before the EU, and some the elements of Dark Empire, perhaps in particular Luke turning to the dark side, were ideas that he also had thought of. I don't think that is too far fetched.

Remember that Lucas also wanted to kill off Han Solo at the end of ESB, so him toying with the idea of Luke being the villain or getting killed in the sequels doesn't sound like it's a totally unbelievable idea for him to float.
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Vader's was black. Ani's was metallic, like the one in the trailer. How is this a question? Am I suddenly going color-blind?

Granted, Vader's saber would be easier to explain the survival of.

EDIT: Yep, metallic, with a black grip for comparison. That is Ani's saber without a question.






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