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  Darth Skuldren
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Hitler...NOT evil?

I'm not really sure how you can say that when you consider...

1.) The mass genocide he committed.

2.) The occult activities he was involved in including Satanic rituals and trying to breed a spiritual superman who would have supernatural powers.

So what exactly is your definition of evil? Killing kittens?
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I understand people disliking the word evil or labelling anyone evil... I'm on that boat. But you won't catch me going in to bat for Hitler... ok, I'll give it a go:
Hitler was utterly, genocidally INSANE to the point of constructing an entire state system designed to perpetrate evil acts? But not actually "evil" (Didn't bother going to evil medical school).

Yeah, Skuldren that kneecapping kinda summed up the imbalance with KT's mando's. And again, any fan of her portrayal of them would probably enjoy the humour of that moment and think it's worth the total lack of logic. That's cool with me... she can go play with the clones all she wants, it's clear Allston and Denning did not find it easy working with her.

Like Fatalfist, I would love to see a treatment of the KotoR Mandos. I nominate Drew K.


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Solidarity is extremely gud wid playin wid words Razz
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Skuldren, I never said Hitler didn't do some downright evil things, but he, himself was human. And a very mixed up human. I'm definately not in his fan club and I'm not justifying his actions, but he was a mentally unstable individual given enormous power. And by the way Nazism, the idea is evil, just not the people who carried it out.
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Actually it's easier to defend Nazism than Hitler, since the Nazi party was created before Hitler was even a member. It was simply a political organization that stood against Communism. Hitler had his own ideas, however.

Back on topic, where would we like to see the Mandos go in the new Imperial Commando books?
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Well I like where it sounds like the blurb is taking it. Just what I was hoping to read! Very Happy
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Well that blurb really sort of destroys the question. Looks like we'll be getting to see Fyn Shysa as Mandalore, Skirata fighting the Imperials on Mandalore or possibly elsewhere, and perhaps some more Jedi joining Skirata? Sounds like it should be a good book. It'll definitely give me my Mando fix. Very Happy
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You read this somewhere DS? It certainly gives me hope! Sign me up for Mandalore!
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Amazon.co.uk recently had a blurb about Imperial Commando: 501st. Nothing official, however. It was interesting, none the less.
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It mentioned the Mandalore being in it, and I think Fyn is the Mandalore at this time period, it also made mention of Skirata having to hide the people he despises which I think is a reference to the end of Order 66 and him hiding Jedi. Plus it said there's an Imperial Garrison on Mandalore, which is consistent with canon. SoS has a link to it on the main page.
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How could that be consistent with canon? I thought Mandalore was nothing in the YJK series but since I haven't been following these books/stories as loyally as I used too (mainly because of all the changes) I guess I don't know much about the Mandalorians anymore (nor do I plan to fix that anytime soon) Sad
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If you're an avid Mando fan, then you'll certainly be interested in their anthem. I've never played the entire Republic Commando game, but apparently that's where this came from. So, without further ado, here's the Republic Commandos' anthem:

Vode An (Brothers All)

And here're the lyrics for your viewing pleasure:

Mando'a
Kote!
Kandosii sa ka'rta, Vode an.
Coruscanta a'den mhi, Vode an.
Bal kote, darasuum kote,
Jorso'ran kando a tome.
Sa kyr'am nau tracyn kad, Vode an.

Kandosii sa ka'rta, Vode an.
Coruscanta a'den mhi, Vode an.
Bal...
Motir ca'tra nau tracinya.
Gra'tua cuun hett su dralshy'a.
Aruetyc runi cet slarycina solus cet o'r.
Motir ca'tra nau tracinya.
Gra'tua cuun hett su dralshy'a.
Aruetyc cet slarycina runi trattok'o.
Sa kyr'am nau tracyn kad, Vode an!

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Glory!
One indomitable heart, Brothers all.
We, the wrath of Coruscant, Brothers all.
And glory, eternal glory,
We shall bear its weight together.
Forged like the saber in the fires of death, Brothers all.
One indomitable heart, Brothers all.
We, the wrath of Coruscant, Brothers all.
And...
Those who stand before us light the night sky in flame.
Our vengeance burns brighter still.
Every last traitorous soul shall kneel.
Those who stand before us light the night sky in flame.
Our vengeance burns brighter still.
Every last traitorous soul shall fall.
Forged like the saber in the fires of death, Brothers all!

This is Vode An as sung by Republic clone troops, and was taught to them by Jango Fett. Because of the song’s Mandalorian origin, it can be presumed that Fett used Coruscanta in place of Manda’yaim.


I've got the entire Republic Commando soundtrack, as well as an extra song that wasn't originally included, if anyone's interested.
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Thanks! I got to talk to Jesse Harlin (the composer) on the Lucasarts forums a long time ago. Cool guy.


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Really? Awesome. I never thought they'd make an actual recording of it, and I have to say I love it. I don't know, but it's just really great. Smile
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When Hard Contact came out I thought..."oh great...just another game tie-in..". Now the Mando/Fett/Nulls/Kal etc.. books are the ones I enjoy most. Traviss seems to have given them a great underlying sarcasm and wit. I mean...like the little quote at the bottom of Mara's posts. I love that stuff. And how about Boba getting super rich (like he should be) and.. reading stocks and financial stuff on his heads up display? To me that just makes sense. And who doesn't love Kal and his boys? And even Vau and old stinky.

Throughout the Legacy Of The Force books I found myself looking forward to Karen Traviss's work the most. I even allowed myself to skip through each book and find the Fett chapters or parts and read them first.....and then go back and read the rest in order. Go figure.
When the books were first listed with authors and such I admit feeling another little twinge of.."oh great..." knowing I had to read through the other authors... or wait yet again... to get to her books in that series.
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