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  Mara Jade Skywalker
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So I finished watching all the Alien movies, and I would definitely rank them in release order. Alien is by far my favorite. An amazing movie, deserving of my top 10, if not top 5 of all time. Aliens is an excellent film, and I would like to watch it again. It is just not the same as Alien, and really they're hard to compare. Alien 3 is...meh. An okay movie, but nothing amazing. And Alien: Resurrection, well...maybe we just shouldn't talk about that at all.

I also watched the Making Of for Alien and Aliens. Very interesting! I had to laugh when they complained about the British and their teatime. Those darn British! Haha.

Overall, I have definitely added the Alien saga as a favorite franchise. Smile
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Now watch Prometheus! :D
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My ranking of the Alien films:

1. Alien
2. Prometheus
3. Aliens
4. Alien 3
5. Alien: Resurrection

Besides Prometheus, I notice a pattern...
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Prometheus doesn't *technically* count as canon but my understanding is that it was intended to if it were not for a few annoying copyright laws.

I've actually only seen Alien and Prometheus myself but I really like both films. I have been meaning to see the others.
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I think I still have to get around to Alien 3 and Resurrection. But I really like Aliens, if I recall right the same actor who plays Kyle Reese in Terminator plays one of the space marines in Aliens which was kinda cool. Plus I really liked how it establishes that the Xenomorphs are so dangerous they're even a serious threat to professional soldiers (which I think gives a new perspective on how hopeless the situation was for the crew in Alien; plus it makes Ripley even more awesome).
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It's been a long time since I've seen it, but I recall not liking Aliens very much. Even when there was an Alien week on TV a while ago, I didn't watch it. In my memory it is worse than the 4th film and not much more than starship troopers. A no brainer action flick.

But since most of you seem to like it, I may have misjudge it. Maybe I just didn't like it as a sequel back then and never gave it a second chance.

I've watched Alien vs. Predator. It's on my personal flop 100 list. And I hear that the second AvP was even worse.

Prometheus was OK, if it even counts as an Alien movie.


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Ranking the Alien franchise...

1. Alien
2. Aliens
3. Alien vs Predator: Requiem
4. Alien 3
5. Alien: Resurrection, Prometheus, Alien vs Predator

Alien is just a high quality sci-fi horror movie, thus it's number one. However, I really like Aliens and have probably seen that more times. I love the space marine element and the big Alien queen. It's an awesome movie I'd put on par with Predator.

Now Alien vs Predator: Requiem is one of those movies that just a mindless horror flick having lots of fun. Everyone becomes an alien, even babies in a hospital. It's just over the top, and I was able to enjoy it. I also liked how the Predator was sort of a CSI investigator. For the fun factor, I rate it over Alien 3, which I think is a decent movie. It's much more dark like the first film.

As for the rest, I put them altogether because I really don't have strong opinions on them. They're not films I feel compelled to watch again.
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YodaBauer2442 wrote:
Prometheus doesn't *technically* count as canon but my understanding is that it was intended to if it were not for a few annoying copyright laws.

I've actually only seen Alien and Prometheus myself but I really like both films. I have been meaning to see the others.


How so? It's by the cocreator of Alien and most importantly, it was produced by Fox Studios who own the rights to Aliens. It also contains ideas that are directly from the Alien movies, in particular Weyland Industries and the Engineers and their spaceships.

There is no doubt that it exists in the same universe as Alien. Now some people want to claim, mainly because they just didn't like the film, that Prometheus is NOT CANON just because it exists in the same universe and that the Alien movies should have some sort of Starwars like Canon Level system. I think that is absurd and is not logically supported by anything in universe or by promotional material and creator statements.

They are once again confusing Canon with Continuity, but neither concept holds up to a claim that it is invalid.

Now the Aliens comic books on the other hand, those are questionable and they would fit into a tier like the former SW C Canon, but as far as I'm concerned all movies that share a Universe share a Canon unless they are stated to be a reboot.
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Seemed to me like it was part of the series...I know they don't specifically reference the other films or state that it's a prequel, but it is. In a sense. I realize that's not the same planet featured in Alien or Aliens, but the reference is still there. Just my initial impression.
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Ah, my mistake. I just looked it up. It exists in the same universe but Scott didn't intend it to be directly connected to the series. Claiming it explores its "own mythology". I took that as something else.
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They also state the year that Prometheus takes place and it's like 20 years or so before the year shown in Alien. I don't remember exactly what it is.
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I really liked Dawn of the Planet of the Apes. I thought the new human characters were pretty forgettable, but I loved what they did with the ape characters (yes, a motion capture chimp just totally upstaged Gary Oldman as by far the more memorable villain in the movie - and the same goes for the hero). I also like these new movies significantly more than the old ones. Both are exciting and thought-provoking, but I prefer the motion capture apes to costumed apes (yes costumed actors are physically there, but the masks look pretty lifeless compared with the motion capture expressions) and there isn't an anti-religion theme in the new ones. The old ones had Cornelius though. He's still my favourite character from all of the movies.
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Has anyone seen the "Exodus: Gods and Kings" trailer? It looks like a decent film, although I think Bale's beard and Egerton's shaved head make them look odd. Maybe's its just me.


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Mad Max: Fury Road trailer is out!

I am so excited. Tom Hardy as Mad Max is going to be awesome.

http://youtu.be/akX3Is3qBpw
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Reepicheep wrote:
I really liked Dawn of the Planet of the Apes. I thought the new human characters were pretty forgettable, but I loved what they did with the ape characters (yes, a motion capture chimp just totally upstaged Gary Oldman as by far the more memorable villain in the movie - and the same goes for the hero). I also like these new movies significantly more than the old ones. Both are exciting and thought-provoking, but I prefer the motion capture apes to costumed apes (yes costumed actors are physically there, but the masks look pretty lifeless compared with the motion capture expressions) and there isn't an anti-religion theme in the new ones. The old ones had Cornelius though. He's still my favourite character from all of the movies.


I agree. Dawn was fantastic. The story was far more gripping than the first one, and the CGI just blew me away. I would say the visual effects lie up there with Gravity, Avatar, and RotS, if not topping all of them. I seriously could not tell whether or not they used real apes or mo-capped, it was masterfully done.

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