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 PostPosted: Wed Nov 29, 2017 3:45 pm Reply with quote  
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Ok, so most (if not all) of you know that I'm a non-PC conservative Christian. I also happen to be a "geek" (meaning Sci-fi, superhero, SW, Dune, gamer, etc. fan). While I like the Marvel standards (Spiderman, X-Men, Fantastic Four, Hulk, Iron Man, etc.), and like their movies and Netflix shows, I don't really read their comics (i.e. the source material)...well, I did read a few of the 90's X-Men (Colossus, Rogue, and Phoenix being my favs). I've really always favored the DC heroes (Green Lantern (my fav), Superman, Batman, Wonder Woman, Aquaman, Flash, etc.)

Starting with Arrow on the CW channel, I started watching the DC TV shows. Then Flash, and Supergirl (on CBS), and Legends of Tomorrow. Oh, and even Gotham on Fox. Well, I think it started on Arrow, they had a female character all of the sudden become gay (she was in love with the main character, Green Arrow, before that). But, that wasn't a major part of the show, so I "looked past it" and just fast forwarded through any of those types of scenes. Then they introduced a male character that had a husband, but, again, the character was tertiary and was only a bit/mention in the story. Next came Flash, but they only had a villain here or there that was gay. Supergirl's first season didn't have any of that either. Even Legend's, who brought the gay female character over, only had small bits of that in the show.

So, to me, at that point, the shows were still watchable because I could ignore those small things. However, with Supergirl's second season (which started out awesome by introducing Superman) suddenly changed their whole focus by making Supergirl's Earth sister "become" gay. It was as if the entire focus of the show was to "explore" the gay relationship(s). I stopped watching Supergirl for that reason.

Luckily, the other shows hadn't "gone over the cliff" and I continued to watch always hoping for more DC heroes to be introduced.

But this season seemed to be taking another direction for the shows. I started noticing more "questionable" content in the shows. For example: Legend's introduced a female Muslim character that they named "ISIS". Supposedly, it's supposed to be the Egyptian goddess or whatever named ISIS. But don't they realize that the Egyptians were pagans (worshiping multiple gods) and not Muslim (who are monotheistic)? There was also the anti-gun Arrow episodes. Only in Flash have I not noticed a thinly veiled agenda in the stories.

This past Monday brought the first big crossover event for all 4 shows. It was called Crisis on Earth-X. Since the previous crossover they did last season left out all of the gay and PC/lefty agenda stuff, I was looking forward to seeing Supergirl, Martian Manhunter, and Miss Martian together with Flash, Arrow, Atom, etc. and maybe even get Superman into the mix, or even have them introduce a few more other well known heroes into the shows. Well, unfortunately, that was not to be.

Instead, the writers and producers of those shows decided to go full bore SJW, antifa, anti-conservative, anti-Christian/Bible, pro-homosexual. Not only did they focus on bringing Supergirl's sister together with the lesbian on Legends, but they introduced a new gay character and made his boyfriend one of the villains from Flash. It was clear that they were insinuating that the "Nazi's" from that other Earth were supposed to represent white American conservative men (in real life, as defined by the MSM, antifa and "the left"). There were so many homosexual scenes in the 4 shows that they should have aired on the LOGO channel.

Even Gotham had a storyline where the Penguin thought he was in gay love with the Riddler. And, they had Gordon's girlfriend gay. But, they pretty much dropped the gay thing (perhaps due to ratings?).

I've also been reading several of the DC comics since they launched the "Rebirth" titles. Now, I guess since it seems to be more in the open with the MSM, Wonder Woman is gay (or at least bi) and comes from an island of only apparently gay women. (I just wonder how they were able to procreate?...and, apparently only have female children). In the Action Comics (i.e. Superman) 5 comic lead into the new DC/Watchmen crossover "Doomsday Clock" I noticed a lot of leftist propaganda.

Because of all of this agenda/propaganda pushing, added to them already trying to be "PC" by race and gender swapping, I'm done with DC TV and DC comics. And, as I've mentioned in other SW threads, I'm seeing this happening to SW too. The world is changing. I know it's going to keep going in it's current direction, and I also know how it's going to end. I just have to accept it and find a way to deal with it. I'm just wondering if there will be much left for a conservative Christian in America to enjoy much longer? I'm looking forward to (x + 7) years from now when I know that I'll have PLENTY to enjoy!


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 PostPosted: Thu Nov 30, 2017 11:06 pm Reply with quote  
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I'm not going argue against you, I think you know what I would say.

Some Evil Old White Man said, "You can't please all the people all the time." I think that is what mass media is trying to do, and I don't think it's working.

But is the solution to have media that only appeals to one very specific type of person and not deviate from that at all? Are people really so divided and entrenched in their ideologies that they can't even find common ground in something so trivial as watching TV shows?

I don't know. My favorite movie is Andrei Tarkovsky's Stalker, which is a Russian language film that is 3 hours long and has almost no dialogue, and the only dialogue it does have are conversations between people representing the spiritual, emotional, and rational minds philosophically musing about the meaning of life.

Even reading that sentence might be too much for some people. All that is to say that ninety nine percent of media isn't targeted towards what is most appealing to me and my personal values are never represented.

My solution is just to watch the crap and then be really negative about it. haha. Not too helpful, I suppose.
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@DPW: Your favorite is Stalker? Huh, we have more in common than I thought.
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 PostPosted: Fri Dec 01, 2017 9:50 am Reply with quote  
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@DPW, Thank you for your comments. True, we fundamentally don't really agree on a lot of things, but it's nice to be able to have a civil discussion about it anyway. Smile

You've heard the phrase: "the eyes are the windows to your soul". And why do you think there are so many commercials on tv? Because it works. Companies and organizations can put a commercial on tv that can influence those that watch/see them to do or buy their product. Ever notice that when you see a commercial for food you're suddenly hungry...for that type of food? TV producers, writers, directors, etc. know that they can convey their message to the masses via tv. Whether you realize it or not, you are being influenced by the things you watch on tv (and other media of course). I refuse to allow the liberal media to dictate to me their ideas of what is right and what is wrong.

So, if that media is projecting a message that goes against what I, the consumer, believe in an attempt to get me to accept their message, then I have a choice to make. Do I continue to consume that media and try to ignore their message, or do I just stop consuming their product?

In the case of DC, I'm seeing more and more a message being pushed that goes against my beliefs, so I am simply choosing to stop consuming their product.


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I was talking about Disney's new streaming service meant to compete with Netflix. When that was first announced it was a laughable idea, but now that they were going to kill the internet, it seems that is exactly what will happen and they will easily be able to crush Netflix. That made me think of this thread.

For some reason I had forgotten that the reason we have 10 new superhero movies every year is because they are products of the two megacorporations that produce 80% of all the media.

When I said that they wanted to please everybody, that was a bit naive because it suggests the experience to be primarily intended as pleasurable. A better example would be having your eyelids held open like A Clockwork Orange.

What I don't understand is the idea of this "Liberal media".

I have a hard time believing that one of the world's largest corporations that started out making racist propaganda, and a questionable support of Fascism, has Bono as a CEO and a board of directors made up of chicks they picked up from Coachella, and they really want to spread a social message because they just love gay black people so much.

It seems pretty clear to me that they only care about making as much money from as many people as possible.

But then the whole supposed divide between "Liberals" and "Conservatives" doesn't make sense to me either.

The Democrats are Neoliberals. The Republicans are...also Neoliberals. Ninety Nine percent of their policies for government and the economy are the same, they just disagree in how much they like guns and who should pay more taxes.

People who call themselves Conservatives are mainly Classical Liberals. If you think those sound like the opposites, read this amusing wikipedia article:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liberal_conservatism

The gist of it is that most people essentially think they are the same thing.

The funniest one of all is Neoconservatives which people primarily associate with George Bush and Reagan but was actually made up of Jewish Socialists who were mad at their fellow Marxists for supporting Stalin....WTF? So it literally just means people who don't like Soviets.

}Kind of like how the term "Politically Correct" also came from internal dispute between Communists, and not as a call or criticism against censorship and there was never such a thing as actually being "politically incorrect."}

It seems like all of this just comes down to people who don't like Hippies, which today we call Millennials.
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