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I still haven't seen their "Toy Story of Terror" special because honestly I'm uninterested. The trilogy was just so perfect.

I mean, I don't base my opinions on critic reviews, but look at the Rotten Tomatoes ratings:

Toy Story: 100%
Toy Story 2: 100%
Toy Story 3: 99%

Seriously! Not even the Godfather or Lord of the Rings trilogies have that kind of consistency. I'm sure 4 will be good but still...
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Since Pixar has such an intense track record of making crappy films, being disappointed in the film before we even know the story is the only appropriate response. Wink


Honestly, every Toy Story film has been better than the one prior, IMO. And if the 4th one sucks how does that really hurt the first 3? I say bring it on. I don't get why we as a human species have this preoccupation with stories coming in three parts but break barriers I say!
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YodaBauer2442 wrote:
Since Pixar has such an intense track record of making crappy films, being disappointed in the film before we even know the story is the only appropriate response.

Most would argue that Pixar's last three films haven't been up to their usual standards. That alone is enough to make me concerned for their future.

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Honestly, every Toy Story film has been better than the one prior, IMO. And if the 4th one sucks how does that really hurt the first 3? I say bring it on. I don't get why we as a human species have this preoccupation with stories coming in three parts but break barriers I say!

I wouldn't mind seeing more film series with a four part structure, because I think it would be interesting to experiment beyond the classic three part structure. But... not with Toy Story. And I wouldn't be too confident that this is a move away from trilogies, because this could well be the start of a new trilogy.

If the fourth film isn't great (and anything less than epic greatness will be a letdown at this point), it won't mar the first three movies, its true. I can still watch them as a unit and forget the fourth one exists. The problem is it would turn our beloved Toy Story into a cashcow in the eyes of the world. A lot of respect would be lost and the first three films deserve all the respect they have earned. This also isn't just about Toy Story, but about Pixar as a company. I've been a diehard fan of those guys for as long as I can remember and it saddens me that it looks like their classic motto "story is king" isn't being taken as seriously as it used to.

This news is on the same level as if I heard there was going to be a fourth film in the Dark Knight Trilogy. I love both trilogies and I almost wish they could go on forever, but I know better than to really wish that. I respected both for having the definitive endings they did. Having a great and final ending shows that story truly is more important than money.
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Reepicheep wrote:

Most would argue that Pixar's last three films haven't been up to their usual standards. That alone is enough to make me concerned for their future.


I really liked Brave and I think that Inside Out looks as energetic and creative as their best films, so I still have faith in the company.
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Queen Padmè Skywalker wrote:
Reepicheep wrote:

Most would argue that Pixar's last three films haven't been up to their usual standards. That alone is enough to make me concerned for their future.


I really liked Brave and I think that Inside Out looks as energetic and creative as their best films, so I still have faith in the company.

I think Inside Out is going to be amazing. There were aspects of Brave that I loved (loved the animation, the setting, the score, and Merida is by far my favourite Disney princess), but it didn't come together to be anything too special imo. I actually have a soft spot for Monsters University. It never captured the creativity and humour of the original, but I thought it had a great story and message. I think we'll all agree that Cars 2 left a lot to be desired.

Basically, what I think will happen with Pixar going forward is that we'll get great films mixed in with films that are just good or okay. As long as we continue to get great films from Pixar, even if they aren't every film like in the old days, I won't complain too loudly.
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I am wary because Pixar is starting to jump on the monetary bandwagon. I walked out on Cars 2, and I have only ever walked out on three films in my entire life. I will suffer through almost any film, so that should tell you something.

The reason I don't like it is because Toy Story ended on a perfect note. There was no story left to tell. We, as humans, are used to things having a beginning and an end. That's just how life works, literally. We don't like perpetual continuation. It's uncomfortable. I don't know how to explain that very well, but I believe that is why fans get so upset when something that already ended is resurrected. It is, so to speak, unnatural.
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We, as humans, are used to things having a beginning and an end. That's just how life works, literally.

Sure, but as humans we don't know if the middle is when we're 50 or if it's when we're 15. We don't know that's the end until we get there. If anything assigning beginning, middle, and end to a story is us trying to force control on something we have no control over. #thisjustgotdeep


As for closure, I think TS3 brought great closure for Andy's story the the Toy are clearly about to have all new adventures with the new child. If they go that route it could be really good.
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Look at us getting all philosophical over a Pixar movie. I'm so proud. Hee-hee. Smile
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^ That's what Pixar movies are for. Wink
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I was talking to my friend about future Pixar movies and I decided that, as much as I'm griping about the influx of Pixar sequels, I really want a Brave sequel. It's not because I thought the first one was amazing, but it's because I thought that the world they created had a lot of potential that was never realized.

I want a Pixar war epic. My idea is that England invades Scotland and Merida has to lead an army to repel them. Okay, it doesn't have to be England (too much like Braveheart maybe? Razz ), but some kind of invaders. Vikings, goblins, whatever. The first movie would be the origin story and the next one would be Merida using the lesson she learned about family and tradition to unite Scotland under one banner and use the self-confidence she gained to lead the army. I want it. Cool
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I think that sounds magnificent, Reep. I always thought that Merida herself was a wonderful and endearing character trapped in an ok film.
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Mara Jade Skywalker wrote:
Look at us getting all philosophical over a Pixar movie. I'm so proud. Hee-hee. Smile


If you really want to get into philisophy of Pixar movies and all of that jazz, check out the Pixar Theory
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Gah! Not the Pixar Theory! That thing has gained way too much attention. And there's a book now? Oy! *headdesk*

Sorry, Bane. No offence intended. Just a pet peeve of mine. Wink
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I just watched the video explaining the theory. Erm...don't really like it. Quite a stretch. I appreciate that he tried, but it's definitely too convoluted for me.
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Finding Dory has released a trailer:

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